Rules Update: Higher Lists available online

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16 years 5 months ago #31268 by GJSchaller (GJSchaller)
With the Career Point changes going into affect, another change will be coming with it.

The Higher Lists that were once kept hidden will be made available on the Online Rulebook, from a Rules Standpoint only.  In-Game information, such as what it takes to earn a list, the role-play behind them, or the lore and secrets of these lists will still be a strictly "Find Out In Game" basis.

The reason for this change in age-old KR tradition is that as the game grows, we simply cannot keep rules that are commonly used secret from the player base.  Skills like Slay, Assassinate, Cripple, etc. are common enough that they need to be documented in a public manner, for PCs and NPCs alike.

Along with the rules for the lists, an overview of how the lists are handled has also been posted.  Please make sure you read this before reading any of the Higher Lists themselves.

Several lists are already up, more will be added over the next 2 weeks.  (Some of them are quite old and need dusting off to bring them into compliance with the current rules - others are just a P.I.T.A to copy onto the site.)


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16 years 5 months ago #31269 by GJSchaller (GJSchaller)
As a quick addendum - some of the lists have references that are slightly out of date - we've been focusing on core rulebook items for the past few years, so some of the higher lists may still have odd references in them.  Please bear with these, as we work on clearing them up.


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16 years 5 months ago #31583 by GJSchaller (GJSchaller)
The majority of the lists are now available online.

Some lists are listed, but not linked in (you can't click on them).  These lists still need some reviewing, and will be activated once outstanding issues have been cleaned up, and the list is ready for public viewing.

Advocates have not been listed, as they are being removed from the game.  All other lists have been listed - if you don't see the list in the Online Rulebook, it doesn't exist.  (i.e. - please don't ask about a list for X profession, which you don't see listed on the site.)

The career point changes have been applied to the new lists, and some formatting changed to make it more presentable on the Website.  The Errata from the Online Rulebook have been applied as well, and removed from the Errata section as they were updated and went live.  No other rules have been changed, with the exception of removing some duplicate wording to shorten up the text (i.e. - redundant examples that took up another paragraph).

Please do NOT nitpick these lists.  Many of them are very old, and in need of serious revision, and the Staff and Marshals are WELL aware of this.  We're focusing on the core rules of the game first, to make sure there is a solid foundation upon which to rebuild the higher lists.

Also, please remember that just because a higher list is listed on the site, does not mean you can open it.  Good Role-Playing is a key factor and prerequisite for opening ANY higher list.


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16 years 4 months ago - 16 years 4 months ago #32102 by GJSchaller (GJSchaller)
Four more lists - Sith, True Warlock, Sorcery (Black & White), and Master Witch Hunter - have been made available.  Paladin and Anti-Paladin should be along in a few days, pending one last clarification.

Some skills have been altered slightly in the Higher Lists to bring them into compliance with the rest of the current rules.  These changes are hotfixes intended to change the wording, but not the intent, of the skills to fix them when they did not make sense, when they referred to skills that no longer existed in the game, or when they were outside the allowed bounds of higher lists in general.  A list of changes are summarized below:

Master Marksman:
Stealth Shot and Blind Shot now refer to skills as Yellow or Red Headband skills, instead of the specific skill names.

Master Witch Hunter:
Lore: Supernatural is now a normal Lore skill, including becoming 1 build and continuous.
Several skills have had pre-reqs change, both added and removed, as needed to fit current skills in the game (and to logically fit the skills, where needed).

Demon Knight:
"Magic Claw Prof +1" has been renamed "Elemental Claw Prof +1" (since it swings for an element, and not magic...)

Sith:
The old color guidelines have been replaced with a new set, which is published in the basic rules (as it is applied when you learn Spirit of the Dragon).  This will be announced as a separate post.

True Warlock:
Dark Whispers has a maximum of 5 purchases.
Dark Blade swings for Magic instead of Darkness (as Darkness as a damage type was removed from the game).  (Edit: I mistakenly had Decay instead of Magic, this is fixed.   Decay was removed, too...)

Divine Ceremonies:
Two of the failure results previously modified Faith (Peity) Ratings, which are no longer in the game.  They now modify temporary Faith Points for the period.

White Sorcery:
Some of the skills on the Transformations have been updated to the newer Mage spell equivalents, or a reference given where needed.


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16 years 4 months ago #32123 by GJSchaller (GJSchaller)
Regarding Decay damage - I'm an idiot.  I *thought* it had been removed from the game, but it's simply not listed in the appropriate spot (The list of Damage Types).

We're working on sorting this out, and making sure everything is listed in the proper spot.  An update will be made shortly.


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16 years 4 months ago #32152 by GJSchaller (GJSchaller)
My apologies on the Decay thing - it's been added to the official list of damage types, and Dark Blade has been (re)-amended to swing for Decay damage.

A snafu on Sith has been cleared up - prior to being updated, some dragon spirits had a combination element with Magic as well, but specific skills removed the Magic portion when used.  Because this has been changed (and two colors ONLY have Magic now), these clauses have been dropped.

Paladin and Anti-Paladin are now online.  The holdup was mostly that the skills Resist Evil and Resist Good were not the same across all lists - a clarified version has been posted to all six lists (Paladin, Templar, and Tortured Soul, and Anti-Paladin, Dark Templar, and Demon Knight).

This means all the higher lists, except for Advocates, are now online.


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