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12 Mar 2009 09:32 #1 by Gallion (Gallion)
The New KR Retraining System was created by Gallion (Gallion)
In our continued push to improve the KR experience for its players, we have added to the rules, a new system which allows each character to unlearn a certain amount of skills once ever in its existence. 

This new system will be the ONLY OOG way that you can ever have a skill removed from your card. If you learned 1 HE, and three months later you decided you wanted to learn 1 HB instead, well this system is the only way to partially fix that. If you are a priest and decide to leave the faith, this system is what you use if you want some build back. If you simply made some wrong choices during your characters career, this is for you. In all cases though, any character can only use this system once ever, so use it wisely.

Here is a link to take you to the new rules:

www.knightrealms.com/index.php?option=co...#CharacterRetraining




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12 Mar 2009 09:48 #2 by Inajira (Inajira)
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I heard that this is also going to cost 50g to do  :D

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12 Mar 2009 09:57 #3 by Erdrick (Erdrick)
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Man how did I miss the oportunity to make that joke.

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12 Mar 2009 10:09 #4 by Bladesworn (Bladesworn)
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Too many WoW (and more recently 4E D&D) flashbacks are coming to mind.  ;)

If a new patch errata comes out on the game mechanics/rules... will you allow for a possible retraining again for a character that has already performed a retrain?

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12 Mar 2009 10:15 #5 by Erdrick (Erdrick)
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That would entirely depend on the new rules if/when they are posted.

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12 Mar 2009 12:03 #6 by Odo Garaath (Odo)
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Sweet.

I'd make a COH/COV Respec joke, but no one here would get it.

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12 Mar 2009 12:15 - 12 Mar 2009 12:27 #7 by Ilana Darkwood (Ilana_Darkwood)
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No one else here plays City of Heroes/Villians?



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Oh, just thought of something that's silly but I can imagine it a question cropping up:

If you ask to unlearn a list and its approved, and then later on you decide 'Hm, I really should have kept that list after all' can you relearn it?

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12 Mar 2009 12:29 #8 by Erdrick (Erdrick)
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I'd give you till the time I updated your card to ask for it back, after that its lost till you learn it again via in game means.

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12 Mar 2009 13:18 #9 by Aleister (Aleister)
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So with this one can also drop a promo skill if they wanted?

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12 Mar 2009 13:21 #10 by Bladesworn (Bladesworn)
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Does this also apply to dropping and learning new racials?

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12 Mar 2009 13:27 #11 by Erdrick (Erdrick)
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You can unlearn a promo skill.

In response to racials, under the original write up you weren't able to remove racials, but somehow that line is missing from the posted write up. I'm double checking to make sure if it is intended or not and i'll get back to you.

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12 Mar 2009 15:19 #12 by Fogrom (Fogrom)
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The line was removed because it was unnecessary.  ;)

What the rules say you can do, you can do. What they do not say you can do, you cannot do.  The retraining rules do not say that you can remove racial skills or your race.

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12 Mar 2009 22:51 #13 by GJSchaller (GJSchaller)
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A minor update was just added - a line had been dropped about not being able to unlearn a class that can only start as (such as Wild Mage).  This has been added back in.


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13 Mar 2009 18:31 #14 by Alexandre Blythewood (Eleventh Phoenix)
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Let's say, for example, a character has only one profession list that appears on his race's starting professions, and three that didn't.  Could he unlearn the profession from his starting list?

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15 Mar 2009 14:17 #15 by Erdrick (Erdrick)
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That is something that did not come up but I would venture to say no. One of the spirits of this system is that a character must be concidered valid after the retraining happens. By removing your only list which is concidered a starting list your character is no longer 100% legal via the current rules surrounding character creation and progression.

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15 Mar 2009 14:18 #16 by Fogrom (Fogrom)
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No, because the rule stipulates that your character card must be legal when you're finished. Having three professions that you could not have started with and none that you could have started with would make for an illegal card.

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15 Mar 2009 17:45 #17 by Alexandre Blythewood (Eleventh Phoenix)
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I thought that would be the ruling, and it probably won't come up for me, but thank you.  :)

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