Rules Update: Arch Caster

1.) Could A Scholar incorporate any of these abilities in with their 1st Ranks or no because Scholars cannot be Arch Casters?

6)No, Battle abilities can't be combined with Thaumaturgy abilities.

2.) And could we use Thaumaturgy Path abilities while we are under the effects of Battle Casting?

3.) Does Double Power still cost double casting points?

GJSchaller wrote:

Tobar wrote: Both abilities are Arcane (Bardic) Augments, so no.

But one augments Damage, Body and Fear Effects, the other is just a mini-battlecry.

You can stack War Blade and Prowess... so I don't see why you can't stack Fanfare of Victory and Fanfare of Turning Tide...

It's not listed with the abilities but Double Power used to cost the caster twice the Career Points. Has this changed?

I'm also going to guess that Absolute Power doesn't work with Lay Over.

Okay there was a few inaccurate responses posted here so I'll do my best to summarize the Battle vs Thaumaturgy confusion.

The Thaumaturgy restriction is only intended to mean for periodic Thaumaturgy skills. To answer David's question Lay Over works for any casted effect from this list. So if you cast valence on yourself, or an Absolute Power the lay over would be in effect. Thaumaturgy will likely get some kind of update that says only 1 periodic skill, which would exclude lay over.

You can cross over Battle skills with Thaumaturgy skills as long as you follow the Thaumaturgy restriction of one per casted effect. So should a caster want he can Perfect Cast, Double Power, Double Cast Incinderate. But you couldn't Perfect Cast, Double Cast Arc Cast it.

Also note that Absolute power states it cannot be combined with other higher list skills, except Double Cast. This also includes Lay Over and the text will be updated "soon". It not working with other higher list abilities means you can not spell surge absolute power spells.

Lucas R. Brand wrote:

Aleister wrote: 6)No, Battle abilities can't be combined with Thaumaturgy abilities.

Does this mean one cannot Absloute Power a Weaponcast ability? Same question for Spell Holding.

Can you still use Tracking to follow the footsteps of someone in Absolute Power Invisibility, even if you do not have the means of seeing through the actual ability?

As of the moment you cannot weapon cast an absolute power, as well as spell hold one simply because of AP's definition.

Tracking cannot be used to follow someone who has AP invis up.

Typhon Scyldinga wrote: It's not listed with the abilities but Double Power used to cost the caster twice the Career Points. Has this changed?

Correct. You do not use double the casting points.

Oakroot wrote: 1.) Could A Scholar incorporate any of these abilities in with their 1st Ranks or no because Scholars cannot be Arch Casters?

2.) And could we use Thaumaturgy Path abilities while we are under the effects of Battle Casting?

1) I'm going to go with No, for now. Jon or James can come and overrule me but at the moment your ability to cast a spell must come from a list that has access to the arch caster list to be able to utilize its effects. So wild mages cannot use arch caster abilities if they are a druid like myself, and scholars can not as well.
2) Yes.

Lucas R. Brand wrote:

GJSchaller wrote:

Tobar wrote: Both abilities are Arcane (Bardic) Augments, so no.

But one augments Damage, Body and Fear Effects, the other is just a mini-battlecry.

You can stack War Blade and Prowess... so I don't see why you can't stack Fanfare of Victory and Fanfare of Turning Tide...

War Blade goes on the item, Prowess goes on the person.

Ahhh... touche. Fair enough then.