Item Conversions!

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7 years 2 months ago #163171 by Brian T. (Renthios)
**PLEASE READ THE MESSAGE IN ITS ENTIRETY, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE PROCESS OF GETTING THESE ITEMS REDONE SO EVERYONE CAN GET THEIR EQUIPMENT BACK IN A TIMELY MANNER. THANKS!**


Hello Everyone!

I come with good tidings from your team of Marshals. We have updated the Item Conversion spreadsheet that was previously released as a Google Doc! Here is the outline of the process we would like you to follow:

1) If you have your old sheet from back when, please compare what remaining cards you have vs your purchased quantities, and adjust them to get your refunded gold amounts. Then you can proceed to the updated sheet, and spend away. Please bring either a printed copy, or a link to both your sheets with you to Logistics(as well as your old item/equipment cards), so we may verify your math and issue your replacement cards. If your item(s) still exist in name within the current rules, please make sure their descriptions are correct! Many things, including a few runes, have new additions to what they do or what types of skills they count as. The descriptions of all consumable items, as well as runes were updated from the current rules errata and rulebook download.

2) If you never did an old item conversion, please bring all the cards you wish to turn in directly to a Marshal at Logistics during shift hours. Be aware, there may be a wait time based on the number and size of the conversions being done. We're going to try and have dedicated Marshals available at various times to help you, but we cannot always promise swift rewrites during peak shift hours. We appreciate your patience throughout this process.

Some Miscellaneous Notes:

1) Players will notice that the Holy Water items are missing from the lists. They are currently under review, and are likely changing in the near future. Please turn in all deity-specific holy water items in your conversion, their values are on the original sheet. Make sure if you want to repurchase some when they are reworked, you set aside some gold! More details on that later.

2) If you have questions, please direct them to the Marshals on shift in Logistics, we are more than happy to answer your questions, or find you an answer if we do not immediately have one for you.

**Cassie has also stated she will be making an addendum post to this one with additional details on the process at some point later today, so be on the lookout for that.**

Here is the link to the April 2018 OLD Item Conversion Sheet:

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MlPdkqdU...uF4/edit?usp=sharing

To edit it, go under File, and click on Make A Copy. Then rename it with your name, and character number.

Here is the **UPDATED** link for the Item Conversion Sheet:

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hs8wi84o...0SI/edit?usp=sharing

Same deal to edit it, go to File -> Make A Copy. Then rename it.

If you find a discrepancy with anything on the new sheet, I'm not perfect, I did most of the editing of the original author's formulas to make sure prices were all in line with material costs, etc. Please send me a PM here on the forums, or find me on Facebook if we're friends and message me there so I can get it corrected and updated. Thanks!

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7 years 2 months ago - 7 years 2 months ago #163175 by Lois Heimdell (LoisMaxwell)
Hello Travancians!

Here's how this is going to work. If you have items to turn in, PLEASE fill out this sheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12xtvb9Yl...iV8/edit?usp=sharing
Same thing as Brian posted above: make a Copy, then Rename it. If you do it online, it will calculate your total for you! I also added a new tab to the original sheet to help you find values for old items, since the old rulebook is no longer posted. This tab contains the build cost of skills (for calculating Skill Rune cost), what class of Trinket the skill would be if you have it in Trinket form, a complete Spell list with Rank of anything that could be turned into a Scroll or Trinket, Alchemy names and Ranks, and the total Units of Materials required to make any of the old armaments. It also contains the values of Holy Water from the first sheet Brian linked above.

If you want to print it out and do it by hand, just print the "Printable" tab. If you fill it out online, print out the "Fill Online" tab. For the love of trees, DO NOT attempt to print the "Old Item Costs" tab. >.>

How To Use The Sheet For Armaments
First, find the type of thing and increment that box count by one.
Then, if it's Superior/Exalted, increment that box count by one (this sheet uses an average; don't try and do the math for the exact gold value per unit of material in the item).
Then, if it is made of anything except a basic material, look up how many units it took to make, and increment the box next to that material type by the total units.
If it has Sockets, increment the Socket Rank for EACH Socket. If your item has 2 sockets, don't just increment the "Socket, Rank II" box - you'll need to add 1 to BOTH the "Socket, Rank I" AND the "Socket, Rank II" box.
Don't forget to add your Runes!

CHECK THE EXPIRATION DATE ON YOUR RUNES! Any rune that was not socketed and expired before 3/18 is junk and will not be converted.

HOW TO ACTUALLY GET YOUR STUFF CONVERTED
At minimum, I will be handling new item card writing from 9am-2pm on Saturday morning. I will post additional times as our marshals Rock-Paper-Scissors for who has to sit in the Item Mines during some of the other shifts.

Bring your filled out form, the list of what you want (use the link Brian posted above for help calculating!), and all of your items in a ziploc bag. We are going to go with the honor system right now, and audit the contents of the bags later. If you just need items from the current rules converted because of errata or material effect changes, you don't have to fill out the form, but please know what you want to change them to before showing up.

•Yes, we will still write zero-value item cards for any sentimental items you wish to keep.
•No, unfortunately, I will not have time to help you decide what to buy or teach you how items work in the new rules. I can answer short questions, but we still have a lot of people to get through and limited time.
•Yes, if you have something weird and aren't sure how to put it on the sheet, you can leave that off the sheet and just bring the card.
•Yes, if you can't get everything together by the event (I realize it's Thursday), you can submit in batches.
•No, you cannot immediately purchase an item that requires use of a Paragon skill to make. You can buy all the components, though, and then visit your friendly local smith!

If you have further questions, or the sheet isn't working, please send me a PM.

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7 years 2 months ago #163184 by Donald MacFhionnlaigh (raidr0933)
question:

What about value TBD Items, or simple items that have a gold value on them? I don't see a place to note those on these sheets. are those still valid?

Examples:

Andorra's Hairbrush
Value: TBD

golden idol of Jaxuarian tribe
Value: 2000 gold

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7 years 2 months ago #163186 by Lois Heimdell (LoisMaxwell)
Items that have a simple gold value on them that you just want to turn in for the gold: just tally up the total and put it in the box under "Treasure", Row 35 Column D.

An item like "Andorra's Hairbrush" counts as a sentimental item, and we can rewrite it onto a new card with 0 value. You don't have to indicate those on the sheet; just separate those cards out from the rest of your pile somehow (a smaller bag inside the bag, a binder clip, rubber band with a note that says "sentimental", etc.).

You can also separate any items that are giving you confusion in this way - I can help with those during the process or between games.

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7 years 2 months ago #163188 by Donald MacFhionnlaigh (raidr0933)
so it is now the so called "legacy" and "magic" items are being written out of the game altogether? Pardon, but I am mildly confused, and trying to ascertain what's going on in relation to this as well.

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7 years 2 months ago #163189 by Caelvan (Caelvan)
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Could you provide an example of the “legacy” and “magic” items?

Andoras Hairbrush with no special properties on the card has to be looked at as sentimental. If you get the answer for the TBD, then that answer might change.

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