Irony
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26 Nov 2008 21:04 #1
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Saw a bumper sticker today that defines a particular irony: Andrew Jackson's likeness appearing on a Federal Reserve banknote.
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26 Nov 2008 21:58 #3
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Edwin Haroldson
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Replied by geezer (geezer) on topic Irony
Snapped by the Tiny Cupcake, except that it is not manners I am teaching, but Etiquette - bitch :)
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27 Nov 2008 00:38 - 27 Nov 2008 00:41 #5
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et?i?quette /??t?k?t, -?k?t/ –noun
1. conventional requirements as to social behavior; proprieties of conduct as established in any class or community or for any occasion.
2. a prescribed or accepted code of usage in matters of ceremony, as at a court or in official or other formal observances.
3. the code of ethical behavior regarding professional practice or action among the members of a profession in their dealings with each other: medical etiquette.
2. manners,
a. the prevailing customs, ways of living, and habits of a people, class, period, etc.; mores: The novels of Jane Austen are concerned with the manners of her time.
b. ways of behaving with reference to polite standards; social comportment: That child has good manners.
(all definitions cited are from www.dictionary.com)
When taking into account definitions 1 and 2 of etiquette, and definitions a & b of manners, I'd have to contend that manners is at the very least a subset of etiqette, if not a macro-set of it. So therefore, a large part of teaching etiquette, as the conventional requirements, and properties of conduct in social behaviour, is in fact teaching 'manners', as both the prevailing customs, habits and ways of living, and the ways of behaving with reference to polite standards.
Ergo, I find Kate's irony to be quite fulfilling in this particular situation. I do beg your pardon, Charlie. It's also not usually proper etiquette or manners to refer to an upstanding lady as a female dog. :)
(And seeing as the usual business of this forum is not dog kenneling, raising, grooming, or breeding, and said word of reference is not within the scope of 'professional usage' in our community, perhaps it should be added to the filter, as much as I may personally despise censorship, it's wholly inconsistent to leave it out)
1. conventional requirements as to social behavior; proprieties of conduct as established in any class or community or for any occasion.
2. a prescribed or accepted code of usage in matters of ceremony, as at a court or in official or other formal observances.
3. the code of ethical behavior regarding professional practice or action among the members of a profession in their dealings with each other: medical etiquette.
2. manners,
a. the prevailing customs, ways of living, and habits of a people, class, period, etc.; mores: The novels of Jane Austen are concerned with the manners of her time.
b. ways of behaving with reference to polite standards; social comportment: That child has good manners.
(all definitions cited are from www.dictionary.com)
When taking into account definitions 1 and 2 of etiquette, and definitions a & b of manners, I'd have to contend that manners is at the very least a subset of etiqette, if not a macro-set of it. So therefore, a large part of teaching etiquette, as the conventional requirements, and properties of conduct in social behaviour, is in fact teaching 'manners', as both the prevailing customs, habits and ways of living, and the ways of behaving with reference to polite standards.
Ergo, I find Kate's irony to be quite fulfilling in this particular situation. I do beg your pardon, Charlie. It's also not usually proper etiquette or manners to refer to an upstanding lady as a female dog. :)
(And seeing as the usual business of this forum is not dog kenneling, raising, grooming, or breeding, and said word of reference is not within the scope of 'professional usage' in our community, perhaps it should be added to the filter, as much as I may personally despise censorship, it's wholly inconsistent to leave it out)
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27 Nov 2008 02:48 #6
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The word "bitch" remains uncensored because although we don't wish to offend female members of our community, we don't want to limit the opportunity to offend male members of the community by referring to them as "sons of bitches".
It's a difficult balance to strike...
It's a difficult balance to strike...
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27 Nov 2008 10:36 #8
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Edwin Haroldson
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Replied by geezer (geezer) on topic Irony
You guys are a tough audience (walks off shaking head).
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