Zombies are coming!!!!
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17 years 4 days ago #20058
by geezer (geezer)
Edwin Haroldson
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Replied by geezer (geezer) on topic Zombies are coming!!!!
I'll stay where I am and rely on remoteness coupled with a wide variety of weapons, plus open fields of fire. The sliders will have to go.
There is an abandoned house down in the hollow that is built from stone that is a veritable fortress. No electric, but that is not a problem.
How are zombies on climbing trees?
The literature is scarce on the subject.
There is an abandoned house down in the hollow that is built from stone that is a veritable fortress. No electric, but that is not a problem.
How are zombies on climbing trees?
The literature is scarce on the subject.
Edwin Haroldson
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Master of the Mages' Guild
An ethical person does the right thing when no one is watching.
OOG - Charlie Spiegel - Kitchen Marshal
"War is a matter of vital importance to the State..."
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17 years 4 days ago #20060
by Cpt. Blackthorn (Cpt. Blackthorn)
Not an official member yet but I am planning to be attending my first event in April. and am looking forward to it.... Michael S.
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If I may chime in here for a moment, first off to whomever it was who stated that Zombies aren’t real well I have to tell you you’re wrong on that count it has been scientifically documented that zombies are real. That is in the case those created by the practices of Voodoo and Hoodoo the Zombie state is caused by introducing 2 specially prepared Powders into the blood stream. Some of the known ingredients are tetrodotoxin the same chemical found in Puffer fish, and Datura which comes from a plant. When properly mixed, which only a few people in the world know how to do, they will render the victim in to Zombie. They victim enters into a death like state and are entirely under the control of their “Master” since they have no will of their own. In addition while in this state it is said that the “Zombie” is impervious to pain and incredibly strong which is why they are so hard to stop or kill. That being said if it were Voodoo Zombies that were coming after you then could kill them with almost anything because they are just as vulnerable as you or I, just make sure they are dead.
As for any of the other incarnations of “Zombies” be it the supernatural rising from the dead, or the Virally infected sort, or any other spun off version all this talk of which firearm is more affective; well it all kind sounds like macho BS…LOL. Because I am going to be honest if that were to happen I am going to do 2 things, that is after I stop trying to convince myself I am having a nightmare. First thing, change my underwear because I probably sh**myself. Second, find the biggest vehicle available and get the hell as far away as possible. I am not going to try and figure which rifle will afford me the most success, I just want make sure I got 4wd so I can drive right over them.
But in the event that I regrettably had to Man up and take up the fight against the forces of the undead I would have to agree with the gentleman who suggested the shotgun. What you have not taken into consideration is this, Firepower, accuracy etc. are not nearly as important as Ammo!! Where are you going to get it, you have to realize there are probably going to be a hell of a lot more of them then you have bullets you are going to run out of ammo sooner or later. Shotgun shells are a lot easier to come by then bullets and a heck of a lot easier to make yourself, which I know how to do, also if you don’t have or run out of lead or copper you can fill a shot gun shell with almost anything if you had to. Buckshot does a lot of damage, and more than likely slowing them down is all you’re really going to do with firearms. I don’t really buy into the “head shot” theory I just don’t think that would really stop one. I personally think there is only one sure fire way to kill/ destroy a Zombie Burn the SOBs. So shoot them to immobilize them (knee caps are good) and set them on fire. Also I think a Machete would be much better if you are going to go the route of decapitation an axe is a bit bulky and heavy to be lugging around a machete is lighter faster and designed for chopping so it will get the job done more efficiently.
As for any of the other incarnations of “Zombies” be it the supernatural rising from the dead, or the Virally infected sort, or any other spun off version all this talk of which firearm is more affective; well it all kind sounds like macho BS…LOL. Because I am going to be honest if that were to happen I am going to do 2 things, that is after I stop trying to convince myself I am having a nightmare. First thing, change my underwear because I probably sh**myself. Second, find the biggest vehicle available and get the hell as far away as possible. I am not going to try and figure which rifle will afford me the most success, I just want make sure I got 4wd so I can drive right over them.
But in the event that I regrettably had to Man up and take up the fight against the forces of the undead I would have to agree with the gentleman who suggested the shotgun. What you have not taken into consideration is this, Firepower, accuracy etc. are not nearly as important as Ammo!! Where are you going to get it, you have to realize there are probably going to be a hell of a lot more of them then you have bullets you are going to run out of ammo sooner or later. Shotgun shells are a lot easier to come by then bullets and a heck of a lot easier to make yourself, which I know how to do, also if you don’t have or run out of lead or copper you can fill a shot gun shell with almost anything if you had to. Buckshot does a lot of damage, and more than likely slowing them down is all you’re really going to do with firearms. I don’t really buy into the “head shot” theory I just don’t think that would really stop one. I personally think there is only one sure fire way to kill/ destroy a Zombie Burn the SOBs. So shoot them to immobilize them (knee caps are good) and set them on fire. Also I think a Machete would be much better if you are going to go the route of decapitation an axe is a bit bulky and heavy to be lugging around a machete is lighter faster and designed for chopping so it will get the job done more efficiently.
Not an official member yet but I am planning to be attending my first event in April. and am looking forward to it.... Michael S.
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17 years 4 days ago #20064
by geezer (geezer)
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Replied by geezer (geezer) on topic Zombies are coming!!!!
Reload. Buy powder in bulk, and buy a simple reloading system, say one by Lyman.
You are correct about the machete, as more people have been killed by it than any other weapon this century. However, it is a regrettably close action weapon.
You are correct about the machete, as more people have been killed by it than any other weapon this century. However, it is a regrettably close action weapon.
Edwin Haroldson
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17 years 4 days ago #20079
by Gregor (Caleb)
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I have learned so much....thank you.
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17 years 4 days ago #20081
by Bladesworn (Bladesworn)
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I think the best way to treat this as if you use the best real-life simualtion as you can. Police vs drugged-out psychos. I have read stories of police who run into drugged out loonies, high on some cocktail of different drugs. The police found that other than using a lot of manpower to subdue the addict, or using a dog... and faced with a life-or-death scenario in which the druggie was armed (usually with a knife) was to shoot the person with a large, high-caliber weapon center mass or in the head.
Whether facing supernatural zombies or drugged-out/infected zombies... you can't go wrong with headshots and long-distance death.
As for machetes... those mass-produced blades tend to be poorly made and have been known to shatter and break against any type of hard resistance material... like thick wood or bones. Decapitation is still handled best with an axe in my opinion. Most modern axes are not heavy and utlitarian wise, can be better than a machete.
As for ammo... yes, shotgun shells are easier to make, but I doubt their effectiveness if we go by the current model of "zombie". Buckshot or saltpeter rounds would do little to them, in my opnion. A solid round right in the cranium is the preffered method.
Of course... all this is subject to the idea if headshots are key to killing zombies or not. If not... that's an easier can of worms I'd rather deal with. If they are fast-movies, supernatural zombies who can only be killed/stopped with headshots... well, then that's game over.
Whether facing supernatural zombies or drugged-out/infected zombies... you can't go wrong with headshots and long-distance death.
As for machetes... those mass-produced blades tend to be poorly made and have been known to shatter and break against any type of hard resistance material... like thick wood or bones. Decapitation is still handled best with an axe in my opinion. Most modern axes are not heavy and utlitarian wise, can be better than a machete.
As for ammo... yes, shotgun shells are easier to make, but I doubt their effectiveness if we go by the current model of "zombie". Buckshot or saltpeter rounds would do little to them, in my opnion. A solid round right in the cranium is the preffered method.
Of course... all this is subject to the idea if headshots are key to killing zombies or not. If not... that's an easier can of worms I'd rather deal with. If they are fast-movies, supernatural zombies who can only be killed/stopped with headshots... well, then that's game over.
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17 years 3 days ago #20104
by Secarius (Secarius)
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buckshot is a term used for lead or steel ball bearings. which are the projectiles of most shotgun shells. the reason they are so effective and are carried by police and soldiers is because they give a VERY large area of effect. as the shot leaves the barrel of the gun they spreak out.. and in close quarters use are KNOWN to remove entire limbe, heads and leave basketball sized holes in the center of torsos.. and are known to have a large enough impact force as to force a person to the ground. not through pain but sheer kenetic energy transfer. as for rocksalt/saltpeter charges that i believe refers to the mythos around zombies like the ones we battle at KR and that it destroys them.. like a stake of aspen wood to a vampire.
i have a machette i have had it for many years it is just as solid and sturdy as any other bladed weapon i have ever seen and would gladly take it up against any other "sword" i have cut down sapling and brush with it.. even cleared a small beaver dam with it.
my previous comment about carrying an axe was not to use as a weapon but to use as a tool for opening locked/barricaded doors and opening objects like solid fronted vending machines and the like.
while many axes made today are quite good in qulity they are only really good for 2 things, splitting logs and taking down doors/walls. I have felled many trees (100+) with chainsaws, hand saws and axes... the axes made today are not nearly as effective at felling trees as axes from even 50 years ago... and the ones from even that recently (50 yrs ago) are just as capable at opening doors and such as modern ones.
shotgun = good
axe = good
machette = good
as for the head shot thing. the only way in which a rifle (not assault weapon) is better than a shotgun at emptying a skull is because of the range. aside from that the shotgun wins/
again all opinion.. we have no actual evidence of any of this vs zombies such as we are discussing as the types we are discussing are FICTION
i have a machette i have had it for many years it is just as solid and sturdy as any other bladed weapon i have ever seen and would gladly take it up against any other "sword" i have cut down sapling and brush with it.. even cleared a small beaver dam with it.
my previous comment about carrying an axe was not to use as a weapon but to use as a tool for opening locked/barricaded doors and opening objects like solid fronted vending machines and the like.
while many axes made today are quite good in qulity they are only really good for 2 things, splitting logs and taking down doors/walls. I have felled many trees (100+) with chainsaws, hand saws and axes... the axes made today are not nearly as effective at felling trees as axes from even 50 years ago... and the ones from even that recently (50 yrs ago) are just as capable at opening doors and such as modern ones.
shotgun = good
axe = good
machette = good
as for the head shot thing. the only way in which a rifle (not assault weapon) is better than a shotgun at emptying a skull is because of the range. aside from that the shotgun wins/
again all opinion.. we have no actual evidence of any of this vs zombies such as we are discussing as the types we are discussing are FICTION
ALex S.
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