The current stance of the Light Church of Travance in regards to Dark Clergy

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12 years 2 months ago #92716 by Bat Cooper (Cassius23)
This statement has been reviewed and approved by Bishop Chance and Templar Rayven.


As I am sure everyone knows the King has suspended the Law that states that it is forbidden for someone to follow the Dark Gods. This was done due to the valor that the Dark Clergy showed against the threat that almost ended the world.

Since this has happened the Light Church has, I would imagine like most of you, been reeling from everything that has happened. We have been trying to help the people as much as we can, verify that those who have been reported as dead are, in fact, dead, and so forth. But, it has come to our attention that we should weigh in on Dark Clergy.

It can be summed up in one sentence.

We stand behind the King's Laws.

To explain further. The King has granted people the right to cast Dark prayers and worship the Dark Gods and we will respect that right. The King has not granted anyone the right to murder, torture, or anything else that was against the law before. We respect those laws as well.

We have been told that the Dark Clergy will not break any laws and we will take them at their word until we find out otherwise. However, if they break any of the other laws they will be punished to the full extent of the law.

Lastly, because the commandments of the Dark Gods to their followers in many cases requires them to violate the laws of the Barony the Light Church will urge that the laws be changed to add followers of the Dark Gods to the list of groups that must identify themselves and undergo monthly confessions.

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12 years 2 months ago #92718 by ColinMcKraegar (ColinMcKraegar)
So the Church now embraces heresy. The Templars reject the teachings of their orders.

When did we throw away the teachings of our ancestors and the gods themselves to embrace such madness?

The very bastion of the light now embraces darkness? This is beyond madness. This is blasphemy and heresy of the highest order.

I will pray for you and your judgement when you ultimately return to Galladell. I will pray that he does not find you wanting.

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Colin McKraegar
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12 years 2 months ago #92722 by Razael Seiryn (Razael Seiryn)
Dearest Sir McKraeger,

So a Paladin now embraces anarchy. The Knights now reject the laws of their king.

I don't know if you fully understand the situation, but a god of light herself said to promote the Balance. Let me repeat this, no matter what you think you believe, no matter what you were taught, no matter how you feel, it's irrelevant. A GOD OF LIGHT promotes what we are doing here. You are acting against the forces and will of light. You are a good and righteous person, do not fall into the same bed as Billiam in the events to come.

The bastion of light does not embrace darkness. It is a matter of survival not madness, and to say the word of god is blasphemy is akin to Haroldson telling an Archangel of Judgment from Valos that he is wrong. You are better than this, you are a Paladin. Stand up for your king and country, and set an example. I wish for peace between us, but you know nothing of my God, of me as a person, and of my loyalty to your crown.

To the Church of Light and the Baroness,

The heart of the king's laws is peaceful balance and co-existence not only between the churches of darkness but of any race and creed. The Church of light requests that Clergy of Darkness be questioned as per the unjust and irrelevant laws indicating that Dark Elves, Nyads, and Wild Mages be interrogated because they are intrinsically evil.

I assure you, that over the years the Wild Mage and Dark Elf Community has taken years to prove their loyalty to Travance. This prejudice must stop. All men are equal under the banner of the new pact of the gods. How can the Church of Light use laws which I have personally seen them fight tooth and nail to remove, to try to subjugate another group of people to fit a political agenda. This is the true madness.

I counter challenge the Church of Light in inquisition. If you have the right to invade in the privacy of the holy rite of confession between me any my parishioners, then I have the right to do the same. You can say that you have nothing to hide, but is that true? Those who come to you in service of faith to confess their sins and try to repent. This knowledge will belong to us, no different than the prior short comings of those in worship who have sinned in the past have been alleviated. An Agauran who tortured a man in the old world, who has come to agree to civilized life is exempt. Looking into those dark corridors of previous actions prior to this new age will only exacerbate the situation and cause more prejudice to grow.

To Rayven, Bat Cooper, and Aldric,

You are paragons of light and your faith. I have known you, fought beside some of you, and even have been saved by you or saved you in prior times. I have never once caused you pain or suffering, I have never once directed my ire at you because you of all people believe in Justice and Equality. You are the faces of the Church of Light.

Before I donned the garb of the Raven you trusted me. I trust you. People like you are the holders' of the pact, People like you are going to decide how the town at large act in the face of the upcoming violence. I have been asked to reign in my followers' and enforce brutal sanctions on those within the Church of Darkness causing conflict. I cannot abide by this within current laws.

I challenge you in the short term. Deal with Billium and those who are treasonous attempting to undermine the Kings' Law before this pact is over before it even begins. He openly declared murder in public, and openly flaunted complete disregard for the laws of this king and country.

When I have been given the authority by the Baroness to go above the current legal methods of dealing with those who I know are Dark and working against the pact then I will do so; Within the current standards of the law I can do nothing to stop followers of Dark Churches but cut them down in the most Agauran fashion imaginable to prove my loyalty when they finally strike.

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12 years 2 months ago #92724 by geezer (geezer)
His Majesty has decreed that it is no longer forbidden for someone to follow the Dark Gods. There is no granting them the right to employ the "gifts" of their gods. The Church should not allow the use of their Dark prayers, the Paladins cannot.

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12 years 2 months ago - 12 years 2 months ago #92725 by Seámus Aeislin (Seámus_Aeislin)
And yet Edwin, they did nothing to prevent them from doing just that whilst Xualla walked the earth. You know me, I am no advocate for darkness. But is it not petty to immediately discard and turn on them the moment that the immediate perceived threat is dealt with? The Gods have willed for Balance. It is our duty to strive for this.

I will not bandy words with anyone. I have too much preparation left to finish for my campaign with my fellow Celts, Dwarves and Northmen to retake the Highlands, Calisvorn and the North. May the Gods be with us all.

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12 years 2 months ago - 12 years 2 months ago #92726 by Lathiel (Lathiel)
I believe that only the law allowing the worship of Dark Gods is suspended. The law that forbids the use of prayers or rituals of Dark Gods or demonic entities is in effect. Therefore any dark clergy, unless a suspension was placed on that law very recently, using dark prayers will face the penalties of that law. Obviously, Necromancy is still illegal as it damages the Weave which keeps us alive.

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