The Scorpion and the Frog
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12 years 2 weeks ago #94379
by Jack (Keeperofdice)
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"Sometimes what the world doesn't need is a hero. Sometimes what it needs is a monster."
Replied by Jack (Keeperofdice) on topic The Scorpion and the Frog
What is the nature of man?
Ser Jack Siefer
Knight Of Drega'Mire
Head of Research & Development of Kormyre
Sky Marshal
Captain of the K.A.S. Tarrasque
OOG: Gus M.
“Men learn from their failures. I prefer to learn from the failures of others..”
"Sometimes what the world doesn't need is a hero. Sometimes what it needs is a monster."
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12 years 2 weeks ago #94391
by SlightlySaneBillliamm (SlightlySaneBillliamm)
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Or maybe the scorpion could swim
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12 years 2 weeks ago #94395
by Templar Aldric (Selrik)
Replied by Templar Aldric (Selrik) on topic The Scorpion and the Frog
Any Parable is one in which the meaning is subject to the insights it gives the recipient.
There does not need to be a 'right' answer as to what it means. It is a good parable if it makes the recipients think. To compare the meanings derived as conforming to some mathematical equation sadly misses the point.
One does not look upon a piece of artwork and analyze it's worth precisely, for the very reason a parable provides a subjective experience for the listener. To say that the emotions when listening to a well trained bard ply her trade, are meaningless just because someone else may experience it differently, is a mistaken conclusion.
To me, this parable warns us that the way we view the world is subjective. We cannot judge others based on our own standards, because their natures may be entirely different and their logic may be unrecognizable to us. We have faced Zealotry from within and without, for the past several months. The Valarian conquests, now with the Visagalis situation, and the ill will over the legitimacy of the worship of dark gods, all show that we must be wary of predicting the behavior of people whose beliefs are radically different than ours. To assume a logical response to a reasoned argument is only valid if thee share that same logic. As the Scorpion first reasons with the Frog then follows its nature dooming them both. 'Tis a warning, and a thought thee all would do well to ponder if it applies in thine life.
There does not need to be a 'right' answer as to what it means. It is a good parable if it makes the recipients think. To compare the meanings derived as conforming to some mathematical equation sadly misses the point.
One does not look upon a piece of artwork and analyze it's worth precisely, for the very reason a parable provides a subjective experience for the listener. To say that the emotions when listening to a well trained bard ply her trade, are meaningless just because someone else may experience it differently, is a mistaken conclusion.
To me, this parable warns us that the way we view the world is subjective. We cannot judge others based on our own standards, because their natures may be entirely different and their logic may be unrecognizable to us. We have faced Zealotry from within and without, for the past several months. The Valarian conquests, now with the Visagalis situation, and the ill will over the legitimacy of the worship of dark gods, all show that we must be wary of predicting the behavior of people whose beliefs are radically different than ours. To assume a logical response to a reasoned argument is only valid if thee share that same logic. As the Scorpion first reasons with the Frog then follows its nature dooming them both. 'Tis a warning, and a thought thee all would do well to ponder if it applies in thine life.
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12 years 2 weeks ago #94396
by Goggs (coryan)
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Replied by Goggs (coryan) on topic The Scorpion and the Frog
Wotcher,
I believe you have confused "meaning" and "value" throughout your discourse, and have entirely misunderstood the purpose of my equations.
No matter - it isn't my place to force reason upon the unreasonable, only to make it available to those who would hear it.
I believe you have confused "meaning" and "value" throughout your discourse, and have entirely misunderstood the purpose of my equations.
No matter - it isn't my place to force reason upon the unreasonable, only to make it available to those who would hear it.
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12 years 2 weeks ago #94397
by Kuo Kun (Kuo Kun)
Replied by Kuo Kun (Kuo Kun) on topic The Scorpion and the Frog
Still, it's interesting to learn about talking animals. I'll have to try harder at making myself understood, next time I'm by a lake.
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12 years 2 weeks ago #94413
by Templar Aldric (Selrik)
Replied by Templar Aldric (Selrik) on topic The Scorpion and the Frog
Master Goggins,
Thou hast beautifully proved my point. Thank thee.
Thou hast beautifully proved my point. Thank thee.
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