Being "Common"

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11 years 8 months ago #100562 by Chesta (Kevin)
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Let me inform you of a lesson I learned rather quickly in my time. For every light their is shadow, for every good their is evil. The farms that need a druid to cure, were only like that because of a dark druid plaguing it. A smith can just as easily destroy created objects since he knows how they are made. Scholars can just as easily write false information while a scribe is payed for truth. These people who learn to advance themselves are in no way better than the common person.

And let us not forget about others who seek to advance themselves, the thief, the brute, the assassin, the torturer, all people with a goal to become better and further themselves, while doing nothing but creating chaos and hurting the every day man. This "drive to be better" can and has more often then not caused harm to many people. That same drive for knowledge, can also be the death of many.

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11 years 8 months ago - 11 years 8 months ago #100563 by Caelvan (Caelvan)
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***NOTCAELVAN***

Is it not possible that the farmer picked a field that is not fertile and therefore needs a druid to make things grow?
Is it not right to destroy objects created to make new ones that are better?
Is it not possible for a scribe to also write lies?

All three of those situations can be reversed to support either argument.

As to the others seeking to advance themselves I invite you to talk to a warrior of chaos, or even a scholar that knows about chaos. I am sure they will tell you chaos is necessary. Good needs Evil. Light needs Dark. Life needs Death. All this is true.

Not all things can be good otherwise what kind of world would we live in? The guardsmembers will be out of work with no crime to deal with, as would knights without the need to protect the leaders of a kingdom. Everything would change and fall out of balance so yes these people should also further themselves.

As for leading to the death of many. Death is part of the cycle. If Galmachis deems it their life to come to an end then so be it. Many people fear death. It is the path of a cycle and leads to the next cycle.

Just in case you think I am some person who doesn't know what I'm talking about referring to death allow me to finally finish my name on the bottom of this posting.

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11 years 8 months ago #100564 by Ilana Darkwood (Ilana_Darkwood)
You do not even need to use the words Chaos, you can simply call it change, maybe even chance.

Dominic, the world fails if left to stagnation. What you are describing is stagnation.

This place exists because people wanted to know more. Many places exist because of drive, the spark of curiosity, the need to create.

You're absolutely right, power can be a terrible thing. It can lead to ruin and death. Mass destruction.

But, if you think it is better no one tries... then none of us would exist as we do. Many of the races and civilizations would have wiped themselves out long ago by now.

People can be liars and betrayers and hurt you in more ways than I care to list here. You will meet all of those people and they will do all of those things to you in your lifetime. But, you need to learn not everyone is like that. They can start off as a carpenter, realize one day they can be so much more, and then thrive to be a benevolent soul who helps everyone they can.

It's a hard lesson to learn, that powerful people can be good, especially for the most stubborn of us. However, it is not an impossible achievement. I know you are unwell and that is partly why you write these things. Hopefully after this feast we can have a proper discussion.

Just understand, people must have a desire to learn and a drive to succeed to be able to survive.

-Ilana

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11 years 8 months ago #100565 by Sergei Petsho (Bran MacInnes)
Common. Uncommon. Everyone dies. Everyone suffers. Some are arbitrarily assigned more worth.

Did you try to bring these fallen martyrs you so praise through the Focus?
Did you give them a second chance at life as you would one of the other "uncommon" people here?
Or did you leave them cold in the ground so their martyrdom would serve as a more poignant lesson?

Pat yourselves on the back as much as you like.
What makes your lives special enough to warrant cheating death while you let others die in the fields?
The value of life is subjective.
How much is yours worth?

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11 years 8 months ago - 11 years 8 months ago #100568 by Ilana Darkwood (Ilana_Darkwood)
I have something written up on a theory of how the Focus works and why it is not possible to bring everyone back. Though, that is not quite what this subject is about. I requested it be moved specifically because this statement was not about those who had died but a generalization that would spark more debate.

However, if you are actually interested in the topic of the Focus and bringing/not bringing people back, you can find me. I have had to explain it to people before trying to bring their loved ones back from the dead where it was impossible. It can be upsetting, they yell a lot sometimes, but I have a feeling you would not.

The value of a life is subjective, but I think it is important for one to try living. Living can be a lot more fun than being alive anyways.

-Ilana
*added in different ink*
P.S. I agree with 'some are arbitrarily assigned more worth.' to an extent. Depends on what you exactly mean. But, that's a discussion to have in person and not on permanent record if you'd like! It doesn't quite go along with this subject

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11 years 8 months ago #100570 by Chesta (Kevin)
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Ilana

This "progress" you speak about, how many people have died for the sake of "progress?" I understand the desire to better oneself however to many lives have been lost for the sake of "progress" for its search to be considered more important than the common person. No progress could have been made without the men and women who build the kingdom. If you ask me, the butcher and the baker are more important than the person who is figuring out how to better kill someone.

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