Blood on our Hands

11 years 5 months ago #108421 by Lucien Belfast (Lucien Belfast)
I will have it known that I spoke not a single insult toward any person.

Please read what I have written and you all will see that to be the case and that I was called a liar by a person who I do not believe I have ever even met. Which is astounding.

I encourage anyone who wishes to know more about the real efforts going on to heal the situation and defeat Balfurous contact myself privately. Please also contact the learned people of Travance, as all of them I have spoken to are thusfar working tirelessly to support us, the active and undaunted, in this cause.

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11 years 5 months ago - 11 years 1 month ago #108423 by Tim P (OrganicGolem)
Then I think we can add that you are also blind, and a hypocrite.

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11 years 5 months ago #108425 by Alexander Silvers (Silversupremacy)
While we hold discussion, people die;
While we search for alternative means, people die;

It takes tremendous courage to make the decision to commit evil in order to defeat evil and even though I may be too much of a coward to have made the decision myself, I cannot idly stand by while such courage is so blatantly chastised without comment, especially by those whom did not possess the courage to make that decision themselves.

Know that while you stand in judgement of their means, they have actually created a solution to the issue, which is more than you have managed to accomplish and their actions may have saved many lives that you would have allowed to have been lost in your attempts to find an alternative solution.

I don't ask that you affirm their methods, but at the very least you should all appreciate the courage it took to take such action.

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11 years 5 months ago #108426 by Caelvan (Caelvan)
If I may Lucian, as your comment of you opposing the creation of this weapon confuses me. If you were so strongly opposed to the creation of this weapon, then why did you take command of the force that was charged to defend the creation of it?
It just seems strange to me that one who is so opposed to the weapons creation would be the one to lead the fight to forge it.

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11 years 5 months ago - 11 years 5 months ago #108427 by Keavy (Dani)
Replied by Keavy (Dani) on topic Blood on our Hands
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ENOUGH!!

I usually keep my words away from these notices and try to deal with them in person but being that I was directly involved in this past feast's events, and this ignorant blaming is being thrown around, I cannot keep my mouth shut.

I am SICKENED by the things I am hearing- by the things people have been saying to my face no less!!

YES, Bloodtide is an evil weapon.
YES, innocent lives had been taken in order to make it.
YES, there were alternate solutions- but those were proven to not be as effective.

But did any one - ANYONE - even think for a moment that those lives could have been saved if ONE OF OUR OWN TOOK THEIR PLACE?

No one stepped forward and said "Do I qualify for this spirit? What if I gave my heart to protect the innocent?"

NO. It took taking the hearts out of innocent lives,
people reacting BUT NOT TAKING ACTION ABOUT IT,
having one of the hearts destroyed - whether by accident or purposefully
and sacrificing one of our other Squires to figure out our own people could take place of the innocent.

Do any of you even realize the problem we are facing?! BALFUROUS WAS XUALLA'S RIGHT HAND MAN.

He helped Xualla create the Ulrog, he decimated the Morlans, he has enough power to destroy the Underdark, he's fought and slain a great many of us when he was on our plane-

He is an evil that needs to be stopped by any means! Just like we did with Xualla- WHICH WE BARELY SCRAPED BY AS IT WAS! We need to be prepared for his onslaught!

So when we have an opportunity for Travance to create a weapon that will allow us to fight evil with evil, the people recoil and want no part.

IF THIS WEAPON WAS NOT FORGED, WE WOULD ALL BE PREPARING FOR OUR DEATHS.

The nine lives we had to take, as cruel, as awful, as sad as it makes me to hear it, will help save thousands upon thousands.

The lives that you are all wailing over WILL NOT COME BACK. We Travancians have a unique bond to this world that allows us to return and live again. IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE THOSE INNOCENT LIVES WHY DID YOU NOT COME FORWARD YOURSELF?!

When I was told by [strike]Tere[/strike] someone that I fulfilled the qualifiers for the red spirit, I took it upon myself to step forward and give my heart so another innocent life did not need to be taken.

And I also heard that Atrus- a man we all know to be evil!- was willing to sacrifice himself for the black heart and WAS TURNED AWAY!

Do you realize that this world cannot live on goodness and order alone?! There would be no such things if Evil and chaos did not exist. (And this is not to say chaos is evil- it is a neutral force that many a time has been manipulated in the wrong ways.)

My job, in this world, on Arawyn, is to make sure there is a rightful Balance to all things. If the scales dip too much to one side, the world suffers; the people suffer.

Right now, the scale is dipping too much in Balfurous' favor.

I came back to life through the graces of Palinthorne, or Arawyn, or Gaia, whomever.
I spoke to Arawyn after Bloodtide was forged.
I asked if I had done the right thing in making this weapon.
Arawyn, herself, told me while this weapon is plainly evil, and the lives that were taken were not a good thing, it is NOTHING compared to what Balfurous will do to us all.

Travance lacks the initiative that is so bragged about and it completely disgusts me.

Shame on all of you.

For Travance, Arawyn, and

In Loyalty to Arawyn,
Keavy Lylas Kennyr'renaith
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11 years 5 months ago #108430 by Caldor Eirson (Caldor)
Keavy,

I do not in any way mean to belittle what you did... but I spoke to many people who asked if their own heart would be allowed or if it would qualify, and all were told NO. That it was ONLY those hearts that could work. It was only after the one heart was destroyed that the possiblity of another heart was presented as an option.

If other hearts were possible all along, then people in the know withheld this information from those who would have gladly given their own hearts, rather than take anothers. As for Atrus, while I do not know for sure, I can only assume that the donation of his own heart voluntarily would have made it less then pure evil, and therefore prevented it from working.

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