Trickster Seems Evil

I'm a fool for coming back here, because what I am about to write I am sure will cause someone to be upset and possibly call for my execution.


Yes, Nesterin I want exactly that. Every being you named, every flawed being of power that misuses their influence. Yes I would like them stripped and removed from their throne above mortals.

Valos, the god of Justice, allows injustice at every turn. He had to basically be forced by us to deal with Necrophitus, and then didn't even enact justice, just removed him from his ally and pushed him away. This is not a benevolent god. He, through his actions, clearly only cares about his own, and when he deems his followers are "good enough" to receive power. He, and all the gods, had the power to kill Necrophitus right there, and instead let him flee. Or, if they didn't, decided to not pursue him and instead leave it to mortals because they cannot be bothered to try.

If the god of justice allows injustice to "teach us a lesson", especially when he has the power to stop all injustice with the flick of a finger, then he is a flawed or evil god and deserves to be removed from power, or killed.


Now obviously, this is not entirely possible with every creature you named. Not right now anyway. And, I am sure there there are plenty of you who have already begun disregarding me for daring to upset your precious gods who sit and do nothing but allow suffering.

In the Trickster's case, I am calling for punishment. A lesson to be taught the great "god" of lesson teaching.

He knew it would end bad, and didn't stop it, in order to teach a lesson. He put Arawyn, and mortals in danger, deliberately. If Khala can get a Geass from Arawyn and outlawed from us, then Trickster can get a punishment from us too.

"Stop condemning a neutral being for not intervening sooner in the affairs of stupid mortals"

Then stop allowing then to have power over us.

While my knowledge of druidics and such is fairly limited to that of a lay person in the area, theological questions are certainly within the realm of my expertise.

Valos, as god of justice, brings the aspect of justice into Arawyn from his godly existence in Eodra. As god of justice, his followers in Eodra, most pointedly his priests, clerics, and those devoted to him, through their relationship with the god are tasked to bring about justice in Arawyn. Valos cannot just create justice in Arawyn by simply bashing out injustice in the heart of each sentient creature. The only way that could happen is if Valos destroys the free will of each individual and they are but mere puppets acting without choice. Does this sound familiar? Five years within a world in which free will was stripped in order to bring about "perfection" proved that this was not a reasonable option.

So, therefore, our existence allows the choice between justice and injustice. For without the choice for injustice, we could not be just. Without the option for evil, we could not be good. Without the possibility of turning toward darkness, we could not embrace the light. Without free will we would be but mere automatons that cannot bring about justice, goodness, light, or love in the world.

So, no, Valos does not allow injustice to teach us a lesson. Valos allows injustice so that we may freely choose justice, because justice not freely chosen is no true justice.

As far as his followers being good enough to receive his power, that is another topic altogether and contains much potential for discussion.

I hope this clarifies some questions presented on these boards.

As to Trickster, I have less knowledge on what this being is and what they are up to.

Yours in the Light,

Trickster was the one that laid the geas upon Khala, not Arawyn the greater entity.

Kin, Tom,

are you certain you were attacked by Trickster, or was it this Demon git? Can you describe what attacked you? you may have run into the demon.

-Fr. MacFhionnlaigh

I'll say again.

If a being has power to stop evil, and does not, they are just as bad as the perpetrator.

I do not want Valos to have complete perfect control.

I want no control.

I want mortals to govern themselves. Flawed and imperfect that we are. Without the influence or expectations of higher beings. I want us to hold eachother to higher standards that we ourselves enact through our own will.

This is off topic.

If you want to debate, Father, you can find me.

Tom, whether the Trickster physically harmed you or not with his actions to you and Kin, I will apologize on their behalf. Trickster has done these things to people before, all in jest as is their nature. Most people see the gesture as a joke, but I can understand some who might not appreciate it. Again, they do not do these things to harm people intentionally. I can commune with Trickster myself to make sure they understand not to do such things again.

As for everyone else, comparing the Aspects to Gods is a frivolous venture of wasted breath. They exist in the primal plane which melds with our own prime material plane. Just like everything else, animals, plants, etc, we are on equal ground. Yes, I have chosen to champion for them as they do carry a power and authority over certain things within the primal plane and are called upon by Arawyn, just as any one of us have certain roles to fulfill in our daily lives, but I only do so to help maintain the balance of nature.

Yes, Selby, Order does not mean good. However, again, I will stand firm that Trickster is not a being with dark intentions and only does what is within their nature and of the benefit of Arawyn.

Seth, your views are wholly flawed thinking you can possibly get rid of power of all supernatural beings. They exist in the very fibers of our world and you are a fool to think that we could get rid of them.