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Body Ratio Adjustment
12 years 6 months ago #96121
by coryan
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Replied by coryan on topic Body Ratio Adjustment
Just as a general note: this does seem a little complicated - perhaps not for a video game, but moreso for a LARP.
Might I suggest the following formula:
This way, we don't have to deal with fractions of body points, and also don't have to worry about our BP totals changing too frequently (at the moment, BP totals are going to fluctuate in a way that is difficult to predict - particularly at lower levels.)
Might I suggest the following formula:
Code:
A = (build spent on fighter stuff);
B = (build spent on rogue stuff);
C = (build spent on caster/meta stuff);
if (A > B and A > C){
//body ratio is 3
}
else if (B > A and B > C){
//body ratio is 2
}
else{
//body ratio is 1
}
This way, we don't have to deal with fractions of body points, and also don't have to worry about our BP totals changing too frequently (at the moment, BP totals are going to fluctuate in a way that is difficult to predict - particularly at lower levels.)
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12 years 6 months ago #96124
by fyperia
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Replied by fyperia on topic Body Ratio Adjustment
I'm not quite understanding, is there a reason why crafting points are not factored into the total? They are no different than "casting points" for the crafting lists.
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12 years 6 months ago - 12 years 6 months ago #96125
by Swordsaint
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Replied by Swordsaint on topic Body Ratio Adjustment
indeed...
Casters are already fairly "squishy" enough.... this makes them even more so.
I know spells and protections help.... but there are always ways around such things. To borrow an old D&D analogy- its bad enough a common housecat can usually kill a mage... but this change brings them down to having common rat have a chance of pulling it off.

Its definitely Food for thought... and brings up two fairly solid questions:
1- If casting points and crafting points are NOT counted, how much does it change things from just before the re-coding?
2- How much of a change does having the crafting points count same as Casting points do to crafters?
Yes... as a Ranger, I am a caster too... but its minor parlour tricks compared to Druids. I took a decent hit with this on both Armor Multiplier (I now have less armor protection than I had before the system changed) and Body ratios...and I don't have much casting power to speak of.
I'll play it either way- I really have no problems with doing so (I always forgot to use Armor points anyway.. :S ).... but I do have concerns for other PC's.
Casters are already fairly "squishy" enough.... this makes them even more so.
I know spells and protections help.... but there are always ways around such things. To borrow an old D&D analogy- its bad enough a common housecat can usually kill a mage... but this change brings them down to having common rat have a chance of pulling it off.
Its definitely Food for thought... and brings up two fairly solid questions:
1- If casting points and crafting points are NOT counted, how much does it change things from just before the re-coding?
2- How much of a change does having the crafting points count same as Casting points do to crafters?
Yes... as a Ranger, I am a caster too... but its minor parlour tricks compared to Druids. I took a decent hit with this on both Armor Multiplier (I now have less armor protection than I had before the system changed) and Body ratios...and I don't have much casting power to speak of.
I'll play it either way- I really have no problems with doing so (I always forgot to use Armor points anyway.. :S ).... but I do have concerns for other PC's.
Father Duncan MacKenzie
Templar-High Priest of Brazen
Chaplain, Bloodspirits Mercenary Company
Janos Beecham (alt)
Dragoon of No Importance
John Tinney
Safety Marshal/ EMT
Last edit: 12 years 6 months ago by Swordsaint. Reason: added thought/clarification
12 years 6 months ago #96126
by geezer
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Replied by geezer on topic Body Ratio Adjustment
If any of you have ever played Advanced Squad Leader or the La Bataille system of Napoleonic boardgames, you will understand when I say that the rules have overtaken the game.
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12 years 6 months ago #96128
by Brogan
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Replied by Brogan on topic Body Ratio Adjustment
Most people forget when each class had their own body ratio to begin with. This is more like the original body system from the creation of the game. Pure/ Straight classes saw no real change, just the hybrid fighter/ rouge/ casters.
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12 years 6 months ago #96129
by Keeperofdice
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Replied by Keeperofdice on topic Body Ratio Adjustment
I lost over 200 body and don't have nearly the same armor as I did before, and I couldn't be happier. These rules are great changes that will bring balance to the game and make tag skills matter rather than being a temporary inconvenience. I just thought I'd offer my opinion as someone who was negatively affected by this but sees the purpose of it! Thanks!
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