Visagalis
- Templar Aldric

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11 years 11 months ago #97021
by Templar Aldric (Selrik)
Replied by Templar Aldric (Selrik) on topic Visagalis
The Law is not up for comment, because it is the Law and the King's will. I intend to comply with the Law as I urge everyone to do. Perhaps before we speak further, look again upon my words. I think thou art mistaken in what thou think I wrote.
If thou read my words, carefully, this time, I make no attempt to incite any action against anyone. I told Jack to fight the darkness within himself.
If thou read my words, carefully, this time, I make no attempt to incite any action against anyone. I told Jack to fight the darkness within himself.
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11 years 11 months ago - 11 years 11 months ago #97024
by Gabrian Grottings (E.B)
Eli
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Replied by Gabrian Grottings (E.B) on topic Visagalis
Ah, I see. Thank you for clarifying.
I hope you can forgive me my limitations in this regard- the vague metaphors and diaphanous allusions so commonly used in religious speech are somewhat wasted on me. They leave so much to be interpreted and as you can see, I take these things most literally; it is a sad fact of my job that I am required to cultivate a somewhat suspicious nature. But still, a man must eat, and while I love my books, they do not provide enough coin for me to cover my expenses. Of course, you understand. After all, it is the ineffable plight of man to see eye to eye and know what's on each other's mind.
Perhaps, some time in the future, we could meet, talk, and you could educate me in the workings of your specific church. I'll buy drinks, my treat, and I won't take no for an answer.
I have all sorts of questions to ask you.
*Tacked on*
PS: I am very glad you've decided not to break the law. It saves us from all sorts of messiness.
I hope you can forgive me my limitations in this regard- the vague metaphors and diaphanous allusions so commonly used in religious speech are somewhat wasted on me. They leave so much to be interpreted and as you can see, I take these things most literally; it is a sad fact of my job that I am required to cultivate a somewhat suspicious nature. But still, a man must eat, and while I love my books, they do not provide enough coin for me to cover my expenses. Of course, you understand. After all, it is the ineffable plight of man to see eye to eye and know what's on each other's mind.
Perhaps, some time in the future, we could meet, talk, and you could educate me in the workings of your specific church. I'll buy drinks, my treat, and I won't take no for an answer.
I have all sorts of questions to ask you.
*Tacked on*
PS: I am very glad you've decided not to break the law. It saves us from all sorts of messiness.
Eli
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Last edit: 11 years 11 months ago by Gabrian Grottings (E.B).
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11 years 11 months ago #97025
by Atrus (Atrus)
~Atrus
"Only those who have endured the greatest suffering can become the greatest people."
John
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Replied by Atrus (Atrus) on topic Visagalis
Your confusion is not unexpected Aldric, those who stare into the light for too long often become blinded by it.
I write of things as they were, and as they have come to pass, and as they will be. This is a time of change. All around us, we can see. Lores and abilities of the first age are realized, the weave is repaired, the prime material was on the verge of collapse, the Gods themselves have decreed at least an armistice of the Ascended War. The champions of "good" have brought about more ruin to this town than those of "evil."
There has been a fundamental misunderstanding of tenets and a pathetic display of the Gods in many instances by the faithful. The church refers to their followers as "sheep," because sheep are far easier to control than free-thinking individuals. I certainly do not answer to such as they.
I write now in response to a meeting that was asked to occur, regarding Visagalis. And because Razael has been the loudest proponent of certain ideologies, that he himself fails to grasp. I do not wish to see him further besmirch the Gods in his mockery of faith. He does not speak for us.
As for the darkness within, well, one cannot be whole without embracing that which lives within themselves, to embrace that darkness without being fully steeped in it is to more fully become what you are meant to. To attain this is to attain freedom. These are lessons which your church refuses to teach, as they would rather have everyone bow and scrape and kow tow to them.
"The Heresy of Visagalis," this sounds more like a crisis of faith. Is the faith of those in Travance so weak as to be shaken by this? Apparently for some, it is.
I write of things as they were, and as they have come to pass, and as they will be. This is a time of change. All around us, we can see. Lores and abilities of the first age are realized, the weave is repaired, the prime material was on the verge of collapse, the Gods themselves have decreed at least an armistice of the Ascended War. The champions of "good" have brought about more ruin to this town than those of "evil."
There has been a fundamental misunderstanding of tenets and a pathetic display of the Gods in many instances by the faithful. The church refers to their followers as "sheep," because sheep are far easier to control than free-thinking individuals. I certainly do not answer to such as they.
I write now in response to a meeting that was asked to occur, regarding Visagalis. And because Razael has been the loudest proponent of certain ideologies, that he himself fails to grasp. I do not wish to see him further besmirch the Gods in his mockery of faith. He does not speak for us.
As for the darkness within, well, one cannot be whole without embracing that which lives within themselves, to embrace that darkness without being fully steeped in it is to more fully become what you are meant to. To attain this is to attain freedom. These are lessons which your church refuses to teach, as they would rather have everyone bow and scrape and kow tow to them.
"The Heresy of Visagalis," this sounds more like a crisis of faith. Is the faith of those in Travance so weak as to be shaken by this? Apparently for some, it is.
~Atrus
"Only those who have endured the greatest suffering can become the greatest people."
John
Marshal
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11 years 11 months ago - 11 years 11 months ago #97029
by Templar Aldric (Selrik)
Replied by Templar Aldric (Selrik) on topic Visagalis
Master DuMourn,
I would love the chance to discuss any matter thee wish. It is one of my passions to discuss theological topics, and the reason for my calling. I can be frequently found doing just that in the Tavern of the Proper, Corner Stool. I will scrutinize the allusions I use more carefully to avoid confusion in future, thank thee for pointing it out. On the Law, I never 'decided' to keep the Law. I serve Valos. Law is one of his tenets and I would gladly discuss how that would make me acting outside the Law difficult, at best.
Until we meet then,
P.S. Atrus, thine words are not even being read, I wish no discourse with someone so single minded, it tends to get messy. I will point back to my words again, then thee canst read them, and realize thou art in the wrong. No more will I say to thee.
I would love the chance to discuss any matter thee wish. It is one of my passions to discuss theological topics, and the reason for my calling. I can be frequently found doing just that in the Tavern of the Proper, Corner Stool. I will scrutinize the allusions I use more carefully to avoid confusion in future, thank thee for pointing it out. On the Law, I never 'decided' to keep the Law. I serve Valos. Law is one of his tenets and I would gladly discuss how that would make me acting outside the Law difficult, at best.
Until we meet then,
P.S. Atrus, thine words are not even being read, I wish no discourse with someone so single minded, it tends to get messy. I will point back to my words again, then thee canst read them, and realize thou art in the wrong. No more will I say to thee.
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11 years 11 months ago #97033
by Gabrian Grottings (E.B)
Eli
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Replied by Gabrian Grottings (E.B) on topic Visagalis
It is DuMourne, with an "E" Mr. Alric.
I would urge you to be careful though. While you and your like minded followers ascribe to a belief system that supports upholding the law does not mean you embody it.
But you can explain all this to me over a couple of drinks at a later time.
I would urge you to be careful though. While you and your like minded followers ascribe to a belief system that supports upholding the law does not mean you embody it.
But you can explain all this to me over a couple of drinks at a later time.
Eli
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11 years 11 months ago #97035
by Caldor Eirson (Caldor)
Caldor Eirson,
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Q: How many people does it take to teach a barbarian how to read?
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Replied by Caldor Eirson (Caldor) on topic Visagalis
To follow up from what my brother has said, I have indeed spoken at length with Lazurus. I have spent more time speaking with Brother John, who was murdered for his belief this past moon.
Caldor
Caldor
Caldor Eirson,
Gothi and High Priest of Gaia
Wedding Planner, Match Maker,
Vintner
Spiritual Advisor To Kaladonia
~~~~~~
OOG: Jason M.
Deputy Kitchen Marshal
Land System Marshal
Q: How many people does it take to teach a barbarian how to read?
A: 1 knight, 3 squires, and 1 master of the mages guild.
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