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12 years 3 months ago #99490
by Silversupremacy
Alexander Wilhelm Silvers IV,
Silvers-Family Heir
Vassal to Dregamire
OOC: Greg Henschel
Replied by Silversupremacy on topic My battle ends
My instincts are detecting hints of a scam here... or a paradox... its sometimes hard to differentiate the two as one is commonly used as a tool to instigate the other, but i digress...
First of all in regards to your second reasoning for drawing your weapon (for your benefit i will assume the object you are attempting to "cut" is inorganic) there are 2 concerns:
1. using a tool such as a sword to cut an object is a form of aggression perpetrated against said object contradicting your first point
2. as a sword's intended purpose is essentially for combat use, wielding it to deal damage to an object, cutting it, can be considered "taking a form of combat" on something thus contradicting your concluding statement.
secondly in regards to drawing your sword in the defense of others, as using it on the perpetrator would deviate from your objective of not "taking any form of combat against anyone or anything" and would as such "be used for aggressive action" thus breaking two points in your oath, it makes me wonder how you intend to defend said individuals i can only assume rather comically that you intend to fight using harsh language.
This brings me to the my instinctual conclusion of a scam: as even the use of harsh language would be considered an act in verbal combat, the only actual option left available in accordance with your own creed is to drop said sword and surrender however that would force you to be unable to defend the people you just swore to protect.
With this i will conclude with my deductions and response should they be remotely correct:
1. You are attempting to scam members of Trevance into believing you will not defend yourself thus maing them vulnerable to whatever heinous intent lies behind the ruse.
-Should this be the case i will respond by saying that you won't deceive me quite so easily.
2. Some sort of psychosis has taken root in your mind causing you make paradoxical oaths which cannot possibly be kept except under abnormal circumstances.
-If this is the case i can refer you to a great shrink who can really help you
3. you made a mistake with your announcement
-In this case i recommend a revision of your oath before some one paranoid of having a knife stuck in their back such as myself comes to outrageous conclusions... well it might be a bit late for that suggestion but a good revision would still be in your best interest should this be the case.
First of all in regards to your second reasoning for drawing your weapon (for your benefit i will assume the object you are attempting to "cut" is inorganic) there are 2 concerns:
1. using a tool such as a sword to cut an object is a form of aggression perpetrated against said object contradicting your first point
2. as a sword's intended purpose is essentially for combat use, wielding it to deal damage to an object, cutting it, can be considered "taking a form of combat" on something thus contradicting your concluding statement.
secondly in regards to drawing your sword in the defense of others, as using it on the perpetrator would deviate from your objective of not "taking any form of combat against anyone or anything" and would as such "be used for aggressive action" thus breaking two points in your oath, it makes me wonder how you intend to defend said individuals i can only assume rather comically that you intend to fight using harsh language.
This brings me to the my instinctual conclusion of a scam: as even the use of harsh language would be considered an act in verbal combat, the only actual option left available in accordance with your own creed is to drop said sword and surrender however that would force you to be unable to defend the people you just swore to protect.
With this i will conclude with my deductions and response should they be remotely correct:
1. You are attempting to scam members of Trevance into believing you will not defend yourself thus maing them vulnerable to whatever heinous intent lies behind the ruse.
-Should this be the case i will respond by saying that you won't deceive me quite so easily.
2. Some sort of psychosis has taken root in your mind causing you make paradoxical oaths which cannot possibly be kept except under abnormal circumstances.
-If this is the case i can refer you to a great shrink who can really help you
3. you made a mistake with your announcement
-In this case i recommend a revision of your oath before some one paranoid of having a knife stuck in their back such as myself comes to outrageous conclusions... well it might be a bit late for that suggestion but a good revision would still be in your best interest should this be the case.
Alexander Wilhelm Silvers IV,
Silvers-Family Heir
Vassal to Dregamire
OOC: Greg Henschel
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12 years 3 months ago #99492
by Salem
Salem Noire, Lieutenant Commander of the Blood Spirits
Lieutenant Leon Drekken of House Zezima
OOG-Reece Belmont
Replied by Salem on topic My battle ends
*At the bottom right of the parchment posted by "S" there now appears to be a bloody fingerprint smearing to the left*
Salem Noire, Lieutenant Commander of the Blood Spirits
Lieutenant Leon Drekken of House Zezima
OOG-Reece Belmont
12 years 3 months ago #99493
by Kevin
Chesta Hartwick MazoKisei
Replied by Kevin on topic My battle ends
Mrikh- As I would be more than happy to discuss with you my moral oath however I must make one point very clear my friend. I am not a hero, far from it actually. I have to much innocent blood on my hands to be considered anything of the sort.
And to Alexander, you really need to calm down. My only plan with this oath is to fight only when I absolutely have to. I understand your suspicions but I have no reason to, or desire to cause any more trouble for anyone.
And to Alexander, you really need to calm down. My only plan with this oath is to fight only when I absolutely have to. I understand your suspicions but I have no reason to, or desire to cause any more trouble for anyone.
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12 years 3 months ago - 12 years 3 months ago #99494
by Swordsaint
Father Duncan MacKenzie
Templar-High Priest of Brazen
Chaplain, Bloodspirits Mercenary Company
Janos Beecham (alt)
Dragoon of No Importance
John Tinney
Safety Marshal/ EMT
Replied by Swordsaint on topic My battle ends
Dominick,
Rest Easy, lad... Some folks nae can figger out when someone is either tired of looking for danger or simply no' able to be out and about anymore either fighting, drinking or wenching... There comes that time for every one... and yours just happened to come now.
Know that I get it and I know what happened tae ye... and if anyone is tae give you grief, send them tae me and I will do my best to explain why this choice of yours was made. I think I can find enough simple words tae make them understand in a diplomatic way.
Its a brave man who knows when tae say when. Far too many never figure that point out.
-D. MacKenzie
Rest Easy, lad... Some folks nae can figger out when someone is either tired of looking for danger or simply no' able to be out and about anymore either fighting, drinking or wenching... There comes that time for every one... and yours just happened to come now.
Know that I get it and I know what happened tae ye... and if anyone is tae give you grief, send them tae me and I will do my best to explain why this choice of yours was made. I think I can find enough simple words tae make them understand in a diplomatic way.
Its a brave man who knows when tae say when. Far too many never figure that point out.
-D. MacKenzie
Father Duncan MacKenzie
Templar-High Priest of Brazen
Chaplain, Bloodspirits Mercenary Company
Janos Beecham (alt)
Dragoon of No Importance
John Tinney
Safety Marshal/ EMT
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12 years 3 months ago #99495
by Gaeth
Brother Illyrin Soral
Seeker of the Veiled Truths
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Archibald Blackmoore,
Monster Hunter Extraordinaire
OOG: Galen F, "The Frozen"
Replied by Gaeth on topic My battle ends
A correction to Mr. Silvers:
Cutting an inanimate object is in no ways necessarily an act of aggression. Aggression implies a certain hostility and one needs not feel hostility towards, let us say, a log, in order to chop said log into firewood.
If you are to make overly pedantic corrections about what someone else has said, please do at least check to be sure all your suppositions are valid.
As for you, Mr. Dominic, I look forward to seeing where you go and what this oath shall become for you.
May Chronicler help us see the story,
Illyrin Soral
Cutting an inanimate object is in no ways necessarily an act of aggression. Aggression implies a certain hostility and one needs not feel hostility towards, let us say, a log, in order to chop said log into firewood.
If you are to make overly pedantic corrections about what someone else has said, please do at least check to be sure all your suppositions are valid.
As for you, Mr. Dominic, I look forward to seeing where you go and what this oath shall become for you.
May Chronicler help us see the story,
Illyrin Soral
Brother Illyrin Soral
Seeker of the Veiled Truths
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Archibald Blackmoore,
Monster Hunter Extraordinaire
OOG: Galen F, "The Frozen"
12 years 3 months ago #99498
by Birgitta
Birgitta Drexel (Primary)
Commander of Training Baronial Militia
Blood Spirits (Cmd/Sgt)
Blue Dragoon
"Amateurs Practice Until They Get It Right; Professionals Practice Until They Can’t Get It Wrong"
Callisto Boyington (Alt)
Cav.
AKA Leslie McCormack
Replied by Birgitta on topic My battle ends
As long as you live the battle never ends. It may change its form but it does not end. Healers heal the battle is against death. The warrior fights the battle is against many things. A defender defends but the battle us simply defensive. Your battle has changed with your decision. It may well change again and again. I can not count on both my hands how many times my battle has changed over the many years. Fight on your own terms but please know you fight regardless. Be well stay safe guard those you love.
Birgitta Drexel (Primary)
Commander of Training Baronial Militia
Blood Spirits (Cmd/Sgt)
Blue Dragoon
"Amateurs Practice Until They Get It Right; Professionals Practice Until They Can’t Get It Wrong"
Callisto Boyington (Alt)
Cav.
AKA Leslie McCormack
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