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Hm. I didn't know that.

Thank you.

Master Haroldson,

I have held my tongue up to now, allowing thee to make thine folly clear. As thee hath named me in thine complaints, however, I feel that I have the right to address thine umbrage against me. Thine claim of insult I find puzzling, please allow me to explain the source of my confusion.

Thine ire was apparently raised during my sermon, by my calling thee "Master Haroldson". Thee, then did choose to interrupt a Valosian Mass, in order to demand the use of a title reserved for Ordained Priests within the Church of Light. In fact, the only words from my lips in addressing thee after this, were to clarify whether the Church recognized the title thee wished me to use. I asked three times, to which thee dissembled and offered excuses that did not include a yes or no response. Without Church recognition, I finally explained, I could only use your secular title, which is properly, "Master" in recognition of thine secular accomplishments. Thee then chose to storm from the Mass at this point, claiming insult. Thus thee can see, where my confusion lies.

Thou didst interrupt a Valosian Mass in order to self aggrandize. Then when asked to satisfactorily support thine illegitimate claim of title, thee could not. When it was clear that the title would not be falsely applied to thee, thou didst compound the extreme impropriety of interrupting a Holy Mass, by causing a further scene by shouting at a Clergy of the Church in the middle of his sermon, as thee left in a huff.

Looking at all of this, the only insult given was towards the Church, and by thee.

I encourage thee to think carefully who thee serve in this seeking of conflict: is it our Lord Valos or thineself? I hope thee canst reject thine darkening path, and seek redemption. Even in exile one can repent. I willst pray for thee.

This constant verbal warfare is tiresome. Men are born with the gift to speak for a reason. How they use that particular gift is up to them. Edwin is still using his gift for the Light, as I've heard some who are not priests speak on the passion they have of the Gods they chose to follow. They are not ordained, yet spread the word of Light or Dark for that matter with no worry of consequences. Edwin simply wishes to bring awareness of the god he chose to those who wish to hear. Is it really that wrong?

To this I add that many in Travance would hope I would not speak anymore, but now my words ring with a certain truth that has gained respect to a degree. I speak of my travels, of battles past, of poetry and love. I am not a bard but I do sing from time to time, does that make me wrong for wanting to share my passion with those around me?

All of this seems...to be frank, petty to me. Grown men and women debating on a man speaking of his salvation all because the institution has told him he cannot. Even if I was ordered to have my tongue cut out so that I could not speak anymore, I would write my words down on paper and have someone read them off if I was passionate enough on the subject matter.

Do not take this as insult, nor disrespect, this is simply my opinion I wished to share as I see a lot of questions for Edwin, yet I see no one is willing to question their own selves to see what they really feel. They have heard words from a powerful man and respected them to the point where it has become a decision. To me it seems some of the people asking the many questions need to look inside themselves and ask what would they do if they were in the same situation?

Signed, With Truth,
Jack Dimms.

You speak of the canons that man wrote. I recall an Angel of Valos throwing them out when he gave you the choice to leave or repent.

Oh, one thing I would like to point out. I was not just speaking for myself. I was speaking as Head Templar and with the full blessing and authority therein.

So the Church of Light has spoken in this matter. I apologize for the misunderstanding.

This discussion was ended days ago, yet it continues here. What has happened has happened, regardless of where you 'stand' on it. In the forseeable future, I doubt anyone's stance will change; this arguing is pointless. I don't know what more reasoning is necessary than an Arch-angel of the very God he preaches told him to put down his holy symbol, but if it is needed, anyone may contact the Archbishop, as was requested when this was first announced. There will be no more endless bickering on the subject.

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