Church of Light Mass
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11 years 7 months ago #102059
by Angeliana (Angeliana)
Replied by Angeliana (Angeliana) on topic Church of Light Mass
Sir Silverbow,
With all due respect, how would we expect the shadows to be illuminated, without any light shed upon them?
Should we simply leave darkness be? If there is a glimmer of hope that there could be light there if someone was brave enough to hold some into the shadows?
True blasphemy, in my humble opinion; is abandoning the people we care about into the shadows. We do not do this, instead we welcome them with open arms for a chance that they might find some light in our words and our actions. Such is the intent, not offense, not discrimination. Compassion, without prejudice.
Please try to find it within yourselves to see, light and darkness exist in us each. Come to mass, if you'd like to. We are all free to make our own choices.
With all due respect, how would we expect the shadows to be illuminated, without any light shed upon them?
Should we simply leave darkness be? If there is a glimmer of hope that there could be light there if someone was brave enough to hold some into the shadows?
True blasphemy, in my humble opinion; is abandoning the people we care about into the shadows. We do not do this, instead we welcome them with open arms for a chance that they might find some light in our words and our actions. Such is the intent, not offense, not discrimination. Compassion, without prejudice.
Please try to find it within yourselves to see, light and darkness exist in us each. Come to mass, if you'd like to. We are all free to make our own choices.
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11 years 7 months ago #102063
by Pat (Pjort)
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Replied by Pat (Pjort) on topic Church of Light Mass
I think there is some major confusion here,
Dark Paladins and members of the Dark Clergy are not misunderstood victims of prejudice, they are not goblins disliked by Dwarves, or mages disliked by Northmen. These people are men and women that have pledged themselves to the Darkness and to the Dark Gods, these are people who have made pacts with demons and devils in return for strange and terrible powers.
These powers are not an illness or a malady, they are given for a reason, The greater entities of Darkness gift these powers in return for the recipient to do their bidding. If these people had no intentions of doing these terrible things then they would not have these powers
Such as a thief will not have the blessings of a Paladin, a good person would not have the powers of a Dark Paladin.
The fact that you want to help them and lead them back to the light is a good thing, but do not be confused or mislead, these people are not good, and if they seem good, it is because they want you to think that they are good, in order to earn your trust.
Be warned,
-Edgar of Pendarvin
Dark Paladins and members of the Dark Clergy are not misunderstood victims of prejudice, they are not goblins disliked by Dwarves, or mages disliked by Northmen. These people are men and women that have pledged themselves to the Darkness and to the Dark Gods, these are people who have made pacts with demons and devils in return for strange and terrible powers.
These powers are not an illness or a malady, they are given for a reason, The greater entities of Darkness gift these powers in return for the recipient to do their bidding. If these people had no intentions of doing these terrible things then they would not have these powers
Such as a thief will not have the blessings of a Paladin, a good person would not have the powers of a Dark Paladin.
The fact that you want to help them and lead them back to the light is a good thing, but do not be confused or mislead, these people are not good, and if they seem good, it is because they want you to think that they are good, in order to earn your trust.
Be warned,
-Edgar of Pendarvin
Pat H.
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11 years 7 months ago #102065
by Templar Aldric (Selrik)
Replied by Templar Aldric (Selrik) on topic Church of Light Mass
I would ask that all of thee leave off posting an argument to this board. This was a simple announcement, nothing more.
Any further concerns can be sent directly to myself as coordinator of the Mass or to my superior, the Bishop. As I said, all are welcome to Mass, but regardless of source of thine baptism, Light Dark or Neutral, attend with an open heart and respectful manor.
Any further concerns can be sent directly to myself as coordinator of the Mass or to my superior, the Bishop. As I said, all are welcome to Mass, but regardless of source of thine baptism, Light Dark or Neutral, attend with an open heart and respectful manor.
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11 years 7 months ago - 11 years 7 months ago #102092
by Sindarion (Steven SA)
~ Knight Morgan "Sindarion" Sinclair
[strike]Vagabond[/strike] Harper
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Steven Sebastian Amore
Replied by Sindarion (Steven SA) on topic Church of Light Mass
Imagine the headway Travance could make on most of its problems if it focused all of its internal squabbling towards external threats!
Regardless, I appreciate the attempted inclusiveness of the Church of Light. We are all Travancians, be we dedicated to the Light, Dark, or... neutral-ness... we all can work together to build a more hopeful future.
Regardless, I appreciate the attempted inclusiveness of the Church of Light. We are all Travancians, be we dedicated to the Light, Dark, or... neutral-ness... we all can work together to build a more hopeful future.
~ Knight Morgan "Sindarion" Sinclair
[strike]Vagabond[/strike] Harper
OOG:
Steven Sebastian Amore
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11 years 7 months ago - 11 years 7 months ago #102096
by Kuo Kun (Kuo Kun)
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Don't forget the non-!
Although I may not be able to stay for long, I'll try to bring either food or drink, since it seems to be lacking. Maybe something fruitlike; farms seem to have some choice produce.
-Kuo Kun
Although I may not be able to stay for long, I'll try to bring either food or drink, since it seems to be lacking. Maybe something fruitlike; farms seem to have some choice produce.
-Kuo Kun
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11 years 7 months ago - 11 years 7 months ago #103168
by Lucien Belfast (Lucien Belfast)
Seek the truth and walk in the light,
Lucien Belfast
Priest of Valos
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[OOG: Craig E. O.]
Replied by Lucien Belfast (Lucien Belfast) on topic Church of Light Mass
Hello Brothers and Sisters,
To those of you who recognize me, it was an honor to have met you. I am taking up residence in Travance and will be making myself available to any who might need my protection or support.
The church and it's patrons will be my first devotion, including those coming to pray and any who are seeking shelter from the dark.
I do not wish to reignite debate on what has become a tired or obvious subject, but I for one am happy to see those who have been lost to darkness walking openly among us again. There is only one possible outcome when a shadow is met by the light of day, like when a lie is unveiled by the light of truth. The shadow vanishes. Be it by the cut of the sword or by the guidance of reason, no shadow can survive or overcome the influence of the light.
So brothers and sisters, be not worried of the presence of shadow. Any who have been touched by darkness may approach me and I will speak with them in reason and without fear.
Though hear this: I will suffer no dark prayer or dark proclamations to pollute the sanctity of the church grounds or it's patrons hearts. Know that if you carry the dark with you in anger when you approach my people I will destroy your body and release your soul for what judgement the gods may give.
To those of you who recognize me, it was an honor to have met you. I am taking up residence in Travance and will be making myself available to any who might need my protection or support.
The church and it's patrons will be my first devotion, including those coming to pray and any who are seeking shelter from the dark.
I do not wish to reignite debate on what has become a tired or obvious subject, but I for one am happy to see those who have been lost to darkness walking openly among us again. There is only one possible outcome when a shadow is met by the light of day, like when a lie is unveiled by the light of truth. The shadow vanishes. Be it by the cut of the sword or by the guidance of reason, no shadow can survive or overcome the influence of the light.
So brothers and sisters, be not worried of the presence of shadow. Any who have been touched by darkness may approach me and I will speak with them in reason and without fear.
Though hear this: I will suffer no dark prayer or dark proclamations to pollute the sanctity of the church grounds or it's patrons hearts. Know that if you carry the dark with you in anger when you approach my people I will destroy your body and release your soul for what judgement the gods may give.
Seek the truth and walk in the light,
Lucien Belfast
Priest of Valos
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[OOG: Craig E. O.]
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