Blood on our Hands
- Renji Shintaro

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11 years 5 months ago #108330
by Renji Shintaro (digitaldpad)
~An apprentice near a temple will recite the scriptures untaught.~
Renji
(Oog Chris Burke)
Replied by Renji Shintaro (digitaldpad) on topic Blood on our Hands
What must be done? So then why not search for this ragnorok or other ways for victory? Why find this heinous act as the only viable option. If it was to be done, should it not have been left till all options were investigated fully?
~An apprentice near a temple will recite the scriptures untaught.~
Renji
(Oog Chris Burke)
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11 years 5 months ago #108348
by geezer (geezer)
Edwin Haroldson
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Master of the Mages' Guild
An ethical person does the right thing when no one is watching.
OOG - Charlie Spiegel - Kitchen Marshal
"War is a matter of vital importance to the State..."
Replied by geezer (geezer) on topic Blood on our Hands
Goggins - Morality is not relative. Ethics can be relative, but not morality. If you do not know the difference, find one who can tell you.
Dimms - who are you to tell us to be silent? You exceed your station. I will speak on what I desire until a noble tells me otherwise, just as Siegfried can. Do not tell me what to do, Mister Dimms. You should have followed your first impulse and written privately.
Dimms - who are you to tell us to be silent? You exceed your station. I will speak on what I desire until a noble tells me otherwise, just as Siegfried can. Do not tell me what to do, Mister Dimms. You should have followed your first impulse and written privately.
Edwin Haroldson
Loremaster
Master of the Mages' Guild
An ethical person does the right thing when no one is watching.
OOG - Charlie Spiegel - Kitchen Marshal
"War is a matter of vital importance to the State..."
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- Donald MacFhionnlaigh

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11 years 5 months ago #108356
by Donald MacFhionnlaigh (raidr0933)
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Replied by Donald MacFhionnlaigh (raidr0933) on topic Blood on our Hands
Clergy: I am not happy aboot what had to be done. But what's done is done. We cannae rescind it. I ask of you this: If a soul holds evil, and a weapon holds evil, and a soul can be redeemed to the light, maybe the weapon can be redeemed in a similar method as a soul. If it is possible, we should do so. to do anything else would be a terrible thing. I would appreciate some words from Mister Belfast (I am unsure of your proper title) and maybe a few of the other light clergy on this and other matters on the side please.
and for everyone: I wonder if this Balfurous scunner might have known this might have been needed and chose his chance to strike. He might have also known that recriminations might cause division, allowing him and his forces to take us on piecemeal and win that way, since he couldn't force us to not forge the damnable thing and win without fighting. My conscience tells me to caution against this development. What was done may have been evil, and I am not happy aboot it to say the least.
and for everyone: I wonder if this Balfurous scunner might have known this might have been needed and chose his chance to strike. He might have also known that recriminations might cause division, allowing him and his forces to take us on piecemeal and win that way, since he couldn't force us to not forge the damnable thing and win without fighting. My conscience tells me to caution against this development. What was done may have been evil, and I am not happy aboot it to say the least.
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11 years 5 months ago #108368
by Imrahil (Brendan Barrett)
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It seems I return to find another tempest at our shores. I bear no judgement as I were not present to asses for myself, but am reminded of a mantra of the oni hunters - When one fights monsters, one should beware not to become one themselves. I intend to meditate upon it, as I hope any with weight upon their conscience might as well.
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11 years 5 months ago #108371
by Goggs (coryan)
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"If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a Maul."
Replied by Goggs (coryan) on topic Blood on our Hands
Wotcher,
Morality is, indeed, relative. If that isn't a school of thought you've encountered before, Mister Haroldson, or if you misunderstand the word "relative," I'm certain that you'll be able to find the relevant texts in the Baronial Library - though, for the meantime, I'd appreciate it if you discussed your semantic shortcomings elsewhere, as such things are so often a distraction from meaningful discourse.
If it's no trouble: was there some small detail about the reforging that serves to differentiate it from other rituals? The practice of killing a mortal being, cutting out parts of their body, and then using those parts as offerings in a ceremony is one that we observe with great frequency in this part of the world. What has provoked such a reaction in this case? What marks it as special?
Morality is, indeed, relative. If that isn't a school of thought you've encountered before, Mister Haroldson, or if you misunderstand the word "relative," I'm certain that you'll be able to find the relevant texts in the Baronial Library - though, for the meantime, I'd appreciate it if you discussed your semantic shortcomings elsewhere, as such things are so often a distraction from meaningful discourse.
If it's no trouble: was there some small detail about the reforging that serves to differentiate it from other rituals? The practice of killing a mortal being, cutting out parts of their body, and then using those parts as offerings in a ceremony is one that we observe with great frequency in this part of the world. What has provoked such a reaction in this case? What marks it as special?
Opus Venare,
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A. C. Goggins
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"If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a Maul."
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11 years 5 months ago #108380
by Atrus (Atrus)
~Atrus
"Only those who have endured the greatest suffering can become the greatest people."
John
Marshal
Replied by Atrus (Atrus) on topic Blood on our Hands
This past moon I have been spat upon by your Light Clergy, attacked, beaten and then attacked again by a certain ex-Bishop. Lies were spread with the express intent to have me killed. I have never sacrificed children, and offered my heart for the final place in the ritual. Your Clergy refused, telling me that they would not participate in the ritual and instead wished to go on the witch hunt and do more killing for this ritual- despite them calling for my head as often as they do.
This recent moon, reflects just the newest atrocity which has been committed. I'm beginning to lose count of how often the Clergy has either tried to take my head, or drawn my blood, all the while this happens when they have been riled up by various angels for the most part, and they are in force. Not one of you have the stones to come at me with less than a company of your clerics, or a lynch mob. I have lost count the amount of times I have bled on the steps of the church begging to be let in while being devoured by undead-many Travancians and I bond over this shared experience.
As Caldor stated on Saturday, "this will leave a stain on Travance," I disagree, for Travance is already stained in this way and has been for years. I think that there has been a misunderstanding of the motivations for my "rants" or "ramblings" as many put it. I do no seek to convert those who live here and call this place home. I merely wish to point out your transgressions, to point out such hypocrisies like a Cleric who says he will pray for me and then seeks to kill me, like people whom talk about how killing is wrong yet revel in the death of their enemies, of working in unison to find out more information of Visagalis and within months being considered "anathema" while previously being welcomed. My stances have not changed, although my outward appearance has.
I wish to enlighten the masses of their actions, because when you stand before Galladel for judgment, none can claim ignorance, none can claim they didn't know, that they were fooled, and you will join me on the Plague Ship and we will travel my God's realm together, arm in arm.
Yours in Faith,
This recent moon, reflects just the newest atrocity which has been committed. I'm beginning to lose count of how often the Clergy has either tried to take my head, or drawn my blood, all the while this happens when they have been riled up by various angels for the most part, and they are in force. Not one of you have the stones to come at me with less than a company of your clerics, or a lynch mob. I have lost count the amount of times I have bled on the steps of the church begging to be let in while being devoured by undead-many Travancians and I bond over this shared experience.
As Caldor stated on Saturday, "this will leave a stain on Travance," I disagree, for Travance is already stained in this way and has been for years. I think that there has been a misunderstanding of the motivations for my "rants" or "ramblings" as many put it. I do no seek to convert those who live here and call this place home. I merely wish to point out your transgressions, to point out such hypocrisies like a Cleric who says he will pray for me and then seeks to kill me, like people whom talk about how killing is wrong yet revel in the death of their enemies, of working in unison to find out more information of Visagalis and within months being considered "anathema" while previously being welcomed. My stances have not changed, although my outward appearance has.
I wish to enlighten the masses of their actions, because when you stand before Galladel for judgment, none can claim ignorance, none can claim they didn't know, that they were fooled, and you will join me on the Plague Ship and we will travel my God's realm together, arm in arm.
Yours in Faith,
~Atrus
"Only those who have endured the greatest suffering can become the greatest people."
John
Marshal
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