A thought for this past Feast

11 years 3 months ago #110967 by Birgitta Drexel (Birgitta)
In a rather philosophical discussion I had with Klarington I will also put forth that somewhere out there all the suggestions were taken have been taken or will be taken and used. He and this version of Verill came here to us to this time and place for the best shot at a victory. I'm also going to suggest that if we are victorious and return the weapons through time that a rippling effect is most likely to reach beyond our today into other today's that are around us. That which they sought to use to get us what is needed are likely to be affected by the failure or success we have here.

Mind you I'm only an old sword but I've had some talks along this line with him before. The look I get is priceless. For me it was good to see him focused and active with his old home. For me it was a walk into my old past to see Travance walking through and collecting what was needed to defeat anything that came along.

Strangely comforting since I hate time travel circles.

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11 years 3 months ago #110968 by Templar Aldric (Selrik)
With respect Lord Gideon, alot of frustration arises when the fruits of research and basis of decisions are not fully communicated to others. This, I submit, may be partly the fault of those not seeking out scholars or asking endless questions at the scholar's table. However stating "We did the research" after consequences arise, as a refute to frustration and anger is not going to help the emotions of those agitated.

It seems a recurring theme of the past few months that we pursue a plan which turns out to have significant consequences that surprise the populace. For example, we almost stole a weapon whose presence in its timeline ensured my God's ascension and caused the Age of Peace. Whether we might have gotten it back in place at the right moment or not, is not the issue. That we would so risk the timeline and the fate of our own past, without even knowing what we risk is terrifying to me.

If the researchers knew the risk, they apparently stayed silent until people found out the truth. That is the problem. This is not the fault of the researchers, this is not an insult laid upon those who make decisions. This is a plea for those involved to realize that there is a gap in communication here, and how others feel when research is done insisting action without full disclosure.

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11 years 3 months ago #110970 by GJSchaller (GJSchaller)
That is fair, and I will make pains to address it, I promise.


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11 years 3 months ago #110971 by Aleister (Aleister)
Aldric,

The Era of Peace at no point involved King Gosteli's ascension. That was a timeline where Malyc would not ascend, thus also preventing Valos from ascending. This timeline was far more stable and secure than some of the others. By the accounts of what was done, the Withered Weave is a doomed timeline should we not return the swords to the Pentirr knights actively fighting against Miranda, this is far greater than any repercussion of Valos preventing Malyc from ascending.

The gravity of the situations are not as you seem to think. None of these timelines were our own, but splinters of that due to the moments in time where fated decisions were made. In the Era of Peace, Malyc is slain and Valos remains a king.

Survival requires risks be taken. I did not need to sit at a desk and study old tomes to come to this conclusion. Yesterday I promised men who turned their back on Kormyre in the hopes that Baalfurous would spare their families that we would beat the demon. I asked those men to trust me and risk the lives of their families over it.

We have the tool necessary to win. We have the tools necessary to survive this victory. Even if we lose, Klarington has stated that he will remove these items from our time before they are lost forever and return them to where they belong. The only unnecessary risk we take is questioning the people who have asked you to trust in their decisions. Everything is done with careful consideration and not everyone needs to be aware of the lengthy and unpleasant conversations that happen behind closed doors. Trust in the people who have to make these decisions. Without that trust, this place will fall to ashes.

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11 years 3 months ago #110972 by Templar Aldric (Selrik)
Again, with respect Lord Aleister, the behind doors discussions and decisions made are one thing. But to ask people to follow thee, without knowing what they do, or why, is beginning to make some question that trust.

It is my concern for the Barony, that prompts that statement. It is a sin against my God to consider action or thought that is unjust and blatantly illegal under the laws of our King. If I have begun to resist those whispers of mistrust in my own mind, I can assure thee it has gone farther than whispers for others.

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11 years 3 months ago - 11 years 3 months ago #110973 by Nicoletta (fyperia)
Mister Underhill,

Altering the past is a very, very delicate thing to do, and would result in changing the Fate of our timeline. I can say this with absolute certainty. Preventing us from ever creating Bloodtide would ultimately make it such that we never had the weapon in the first place, and thus would never be able to defeat Baalfurous. Even if we are to succeed, doing so after the fact would likely make it as if that never happened.

Brother Aldric,

To clarify on what my Lord husband has already stated about the Era of Peace, the ascension of Malyc is what resulted in the death of Syrith and thus, the ascension of Valos to godhood. Yes, there was a slight miscommunication on the exact point in time we would have returned to - but as you have seen, travelling to that timeline was never in our Fate to begin with.


I would like to make it clear that this was not a haphazard decision made the moment the chronomancers arrived in the Barony Friday evening. This was discussed at length beforehand. We are aware of the risks taken by interfering with these timelines; however, if we did not take this risk, I can guarantee we would all be dead in a month's time. We are not "falling for" anything.

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