Do not unleash yet another EVIL
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9 years 9 months ago #134202
by Gunnar Gunnarson (jhines0042)
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Replied by Gunnar Gunnarson (jhines0042) on topic Do not unleash yet another EVIL
I was not attempting to twist your words. I was attempting to understand.
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9 years 9 months ago #134203
by Alexandre Blythewood (Eleventh Phoenix)
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Replied by Alexandre Blythewood (Eleventh Phoenix) on topic Do not unleash yet another EVIL
If we walk a path of darkness when our lives are at stake, we are evil. It is when a man is at the cliff's edge that you meet him.
If we take the eezee, simple, evil path, we do not deserv this werld.
I chooz to die with honor rather than live without it. I wud not remake Bloodtide. I will not do this.
If we take the eezee, simple, evil path, we do not deserv this werld.
I chooz to die with honor rather than live without it. I wud not remake Bloodtide. I will not do this.
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9 years 9 months ago #134204
by Angeliana (Angeliana)
Dear Lord Tartaros,
With all due respect, I do not appreciate that you assume that I make baseless assumptions, unconfirmed claims, with no understanding and form opinions on half truths. Everyone, every single person, is entitled to their own opinions and feelings. I feel strongly that unleashing an evil, more powerful than the entirety of the dark paladins of this world combined as several people put it, who is the source, such as a lake from which a drop of evil they siphon for their powers; is a grave mistake. In my heart, I know that an evil of such power should not be allowed to roam free. I fully understand the situation at hand. And I do feel we can find other options, different routes, perhaps not the simplest, but more complicated routes to survival which do not involve this evil. As for killing people we love "without mercy"... Well, Andorra just appeared to us last moon to show us that sometimes killing IS merciful. I'm still struggling with that ideal, but if it is to save them from a worse fate? I love them enough to save them from the pain.
Bob,
I fully understand what is at stake. But do you understand that if Miranda and Fionna defeat the nulls, which is a foe you are claiming we can not defeat on our own, then we are left to face Miranda and Fionna who are more powerful than the nulls who we were less powerful than? So we defeat the Nulls only to be defeated by Miranda? How is that survival?
Cyfiri; pretty girl,
I'm not afraid of death. I'm not spreading lies or telling what is the ultimate truth. I'm simply begging, pleading, asking people not to free Miranda. I do not despise, I love. I love you all and I do not want to see the pain and destruction Miranda will bring upon us all. Remember pretty girl, no one makes our choices for us, we always have a choice, and only we can make it.
I love you, I don't want unnecessary pain and suffering to level Arawyn. Fionna has been asleep for a long time. She is good, but she might not know all that we are capable of. We can do this, we can work together to defeat and imprison the nulls. Please don't look through the looking glass provided, listen to your heart and open your eyes.
May the light guide our paths and keep us safe.
With love and respect,
Angeliana
Replied by Angeliana (Angeliana) on topic Do not unleash yet another EVIL
I do not appreciate this dissent without understanding; forming opinions on half truths, baseless assumptions and unconfirmed claims
Dear Lord Tartaros,
With all due respect, I do not appreciate that you assume that I make baseless assumptions, unconfirmed claims, with no understanding and form opinions on half truths. Everyone, every single person, is entitled to their own opinions and feelings. I feel strongly that unleashing an evil, more powerful than the entirety of the dark paladins of this world combined as several people put it, who is the source, such as a lake from which a drop of evil they siphon for their powers; is a grave mistake. In my heart, I know that an evil of such power should not be allowed to roam free. I fully understand the situation at hand. And I do feel we can find other options, different routes, perhaps not the simplest, but more complicated routes to survival which do not involve this evil. As for killing people we love "without mercy"... Well, Andorra just appeared to us last moon to show us that sometimes killing IS merciful. I'm still struggling with that ideal, but if it is to save them from a worse fate? I love them enough to save them from the pain.
Bob,
I fully understand what is at stake. But do you understand that if Miranda and Fionna defeat the nulls, which is a foe you are claiming we can not defeat on our own, then we are left to face Miranda and Fionna who are more powerful than the nulls who we were less powerful than? So we defeat the Nulls only to be defeated by Miranda? How is that survival?
Cyfiri; pretty girl,
I'm not afraid of death. I'm not spreading lies or telling what is the ultimate truth. I'm simply begging, pleading, asking people not to free Miranda. I do not despise, I love. I love you all and I do not want to see the pain and destruction Miranda will bring upon us all. Remember pretty girl, no one makes our choices for us, we always have a choice, and only we can make it.
I love you, I don't want unnecessary pain and suffering to level Arawyn. Fionna has been asleep for a long time. She is good, but she might not know all that we are capable of. We can do this, we can work together to defeat and imprison the nulls. Please don't look through the looking glass provided, listen to your heart and open your eyes.
May the light guide our paths and keep us safe.
With love and respect,
Angeliana
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9 years 9 months ago #134206
by Nicoletta (fyperia)
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Replied by Nicoletta (fyperia) on topic Do not unleash yet another EVIL
You are claiming things that are blatant lies to persuade people against this. Releasing Miranda will not destroy the Weave, and it never would have. She was put there as an after thought, like the swamp lord said. Opening a prison gate does not suddenly make that prison any less real.
You claim that Miranda wishes to "defeat" you. That is the most idiotic thing I have read. She is the only reason this world still exists. Fiona is the one who risked its destruction. Fiona knew they could only do it together, and still Miranda had to work twice as hard to compensate for her childish actions. Don't you think the world would have fallen to the Nulls in the first place if she didn't want it to be saved?
You are not entitled to claim that you can have your own opinion if you are spreading that idea as the ultimate truth. You may feel that Miranda will destroy the Weave, destroy the world, but you are just incorrect. Stop acting so mighty when you are indeed making baseless assumptions that ignore the actual truth. Those who walk the path of Darkness are not the same as those who are immoral, who wish to destroy the world. Again, you confuse us with Chaos. Turn your hate towards what is actually trying to destroy us, not what is trying to help you.
It's good to know that you all feel your honor is worth more than the lives of every person on this world. Are you seriously risking the fate of the world on a difference of opinion?
Cyfihi
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You claim that Miranda wishes to "defeat" you. That is the most idiotic thing I have read. She is the only reason this world still exists. Fiona is the one who risked its destruction. Fiona knew they could only do it together, and still Miranda had to work twice as hard to compensate for her childish actions. Don't you think the world would have fallen to the Nulls in the first place if she didn't want it to be saved?
You are not entitled to claim that you can have your own opinion if you are spreading that idea as the ultimate truth. You may feel that Miranda will destroy the Weave, destroy the world, but you are just incorrect. Stop acting so mighty when you are indeed making baseless assumptions that ignore the actual truth. Those who walk the path of Darkness are not the same as those who are immoral, who wish to destroy the world. Again, you confuse us with Chaos. Turn your hate towards what is actually trying to destroy us, not what is trying to help you.
It's good to know that you all feel your honor is worth more than the lives of every person on this world. Are you seriously risking the fate of the world on a difference of opinion?
Cyfihi
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9 years 9 months ago - 9 years 9 months ago #134207
by Templar Aldric (Selrik)
Replied by Templar Aldric (Selrik) on topic Do not unleash yet another EVIL
I am not going to debate as others have. To me this is simple. For the sake of every living thing on Arawyn, including Arawyn itself, we cannot risk everything on a fool's chance that we can find a suitable alternative to that proposed by the being who has defeated the Null before.
If you are aligned with Light, you cannot ignore Fiona's words. To deny Her is to deny the Light.
If you are aligned with dark, I am not your friend, but if you seek to thwart the Null I stand with you. If we need to free Miranda, then we do it, or else there is going to be nothing left of us, of the Gods, nor our story.
Nothing I have heard comes close to the power of Opposition, possessed by Fiona and Miranda. It's power terrifies the Anastazi, who are the most powerful entities known. We use it to end the Null, then we sort out the details later.
Being aligned with the Light means putting aside personal feelings for the greater Good. Do so now, and support Fiona.
If you are aligned with Light, you cannot ignore Fiona's words. To deny Her is to deny the Light.
If you are aligned with dark, I am not your friend, but if you seek to thwart the Null I stand with you. If we need to free Miranda, then we do it, or else there is going to be nothing left of us, of the Gods, nor our story.
Nothing I have heard comes close to the power of Opposition, possessed by Fiona and Miranda. It's power terrifies the Anastazi, who are the most powerful entities known. We use it to end the Null, then we sort out the details later.
Being aligned with the Light means putting aside personal feelings for the greater Good. Do so now, and support Fiona.
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9 years 9 months ago #134208
by Birgitta Drexel (Birgitta)
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Replied by Birgitta Drexel (Birgitta) on topic Do not unleash yet another EVIL
Ok folks, You can't see good without evil or light without darkness. Just as Lord Alistair said the weave counters itself in elememts so do these things. For every paladin of light so a dark one rises. All these things are in balance.
The weave prison was made and the weaves changed much over the years too. Lost arts new arts old uses and new. This is a new age and changes like this are terrifying.
Stay calm, stay the course, mitigate harm where you can and keep suggestions coming.
Lastly keep the faith...whatever place, thing or person you have it in...just keep it.
Cmd B. Drexel
Blood Spirits
The weave prison was made and the weaves changed much over the years too. Lost arts new arts old uses and new. This is a new age and changes like this are terrifying.
Stay calm, stay the course, mitigate harm where you can and keep suggestions coming.
Lastly keep the faith...whatever place, thing or person you have it in...just keep it.
Cmd B. Drexel
Blood Spirits
Birgitta Drexel (Primary)
Commander of Training Baronial Militia
Blood Spirits (Cmd/Sgt)
Blue Dragoon
"Amateurs Practice Until They Get It Right; Professionals Practice Until They Can’t Get It Wrong"
Callisto Boyington (Alt)
Cav.
AKA Leslie McCormack
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