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- Caelvan

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8 years 9 months ago #146063
by Caelvan (Caelvan)
Caelvan Renaith
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Gal'Azin Merikh Tazam
Death's Will
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Conor Peckham
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Replied by Caelvan (Caelvan) on topic New Service
***Not Caelvan***
Caldor,
Thank you for that clarification. That makes quite a good bit of sense.
-Merikh Tazam
Caldor,
Thank you for that clarification. That makes quite a good bit of sense.
-Merikh Tazam
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Gal'Azin Merikh Tazam
Death's Will
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Conor Peckham
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8 years 9 months ago #146064
by geezer (geezer)
Edwin Haroldson
Loremaster
Master of the Mages' Guild
An ethical person does the right thing when no one is watching.
OOG - Charlie Spiegel - Kitchen Marshal
"War is a matter of vital importance to the State..."
Replied by geezer (geezer) on topic New Service
Ravani - let me address your concerns.
The Kitchen never had a policy of accepting anything but specie for meals. The servers started accepting them, on their own initiative, as keeping track of who paid was made more difficult if they had to wait on the bank opening to close out the order, which made their work more difficult, particularly as our order taking/server staff often changes during a meal.
As to forcing people to utilize my banking service, such is not the case. After all, how big an imposition is it for individuals to carry 5 gold on their person? If it is such a great deal for them, they can resolve it by waiting until the BoT opens if they do not want to pursue another means.
Misuse of assets - hardly. As to being a violation of good faith, you do not know anything of which you write.
The Kitchen never had a policy of accepting anything but specie for meals. The servers started accepting them, on their own initiative, as keeping track of who paid was made more difficult if they had to wait on the bank opening to close out the order, which made their work more difficult, particularly as our order taking/server staff often changes during a meal.
As to forcing people to utilize my banking service, such is not the case. After all, how big an imposition is it for individuals to carry 5 gold on their person? If it is such a great deal for them, they can resolve it by waiting until the BoT opens if they do not want to pursue another means.
Misuse of assets - hardly. As to being a violation of good faith, you do not know anything of which you write.
Edwin Haroldson
Loremaster
Master of the Mages' Guild
An ethical person does the right thing when no one is watching.
OOG - Charlie Spiegel - Kitchen Marshal
"War is a matter of vital importance to the State..."
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8 years 9 months ago #146076
by Ephrem (bamore62)
Father Ephrem
Primus of the Church of Light in Travance
the Heart of Valos
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Replied by Ephrem (bamore62) on topic New Service
It seems Edwin Haraldson is not breaking any of the Laws of Travance. He is not unlawful in providing this service. This service does not fall within racketeering, extortion, nor blackmail. All are free to purchase this service or not; as are all free to point out its flaws or benefits.
Personally I would either enter into the Proper with my own prepared food, be prepared with coin the night before, or wait until the bank opens. However, there is no injustice that I see in having this service available, despite it being imprudent to use it regularly.
As another matter, if there is anyone who is destitute and cannot purchase any food at all, I will be glad to share whatever little food or coin that I possess.
Father Ephrem of the Holy Light
Personally I would either enter into the Proper with my own prepared food, be prepared with coin the night before, or wait until the bank opens. However, there is no injustice that I see in having this service available, despite it being imprudent to use it regularly.
As another matter, if there is anyone who is destitute and cannot purchase any food at all, I will be glad to share whatever little food or coin that I possess.
Father Ephrem of the Holy Light
Father Ephrem
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the Heart of Valos
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8 years 9 months ago - 8 years 9 months ago #146077
by Angeliana (Angeliana)
Replied by Angeliana (Angeliana) on topic New Service
((NOT ANGELIANA))
Open ye a bar tab -- always
Take coin out yer tab in t'morn'n
Pay fer yer meal with coin
Don't forget t'also drink -- always
Problem be solved.
Yer welcome.
~ D
Open ye a bar tab -- always
Take coin out yer tab in t'morn'n
Pay fer yer meal with coin
Don't forget t'also drink -- always
Problem be solved.
Yer welcome.
~ D
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8 years 9 months ago #146080
by Aleister (Aleister)
Lord Admiral Aleister Demirosz, the Phoenix
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Replied by Aleister (Aleister) on topic New Service
Tetya Gigi,
I'm sorry if I upset you.
Edwin,
You are a gold hoarding scumbag.
All your friends are bought,
And you would buy your Lightbringer's power,
Were there a sum accompanied.
Excommunicated from the Light,
And you still think yourself less a monster than I,
A Paladin of the Dark.
For someone of such vast intelligence,
I would think you could manage something simpler.
But I guess if you're not playing others like pawns,
You wouldn't be such an excellent Racketeer.
Van Kainen
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I'm sorry if I upset you.
Edwin,
You are a gold hoarding scumbag.
All your friends are bought,
And you would buy your Lightbringer's power,
Were there a sum accompanied.
Excommunicated from the Light,
And you still think yourself less a monster than I,
A Paladin of the Dark.
For someone of such vast intelligence,
I would think you could manage something simpler.
But I guess if you're not playing others like pawns,
You wouldn't be such an excellent Racketeer.
Van Kainen
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Lord Admiral Aleister Demirosz, the Phoenix
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8 years 9 months ago #146112
by Lois Heimdell (LoisMaxwell)
Replied by Lois Heimdell (LoisMaxwell) on topic New Service
People of Travance,
I feel you deserve some further explanation and clarification on these matters.
Edwin Haroldson is within the law to offer to store your valuables in exchange for a small fee. As long as he does not change the fee and then refuse to release your holdings, or otherwise break the terms of the contact he has offered you, this remains legal.
You are not required to make use of this service, if you do not feel it is a good deal. If at any point he requires that you use his service in order to purchase goods from him, then the Magistrate's office will look into the matter further.
He is also not required to accept anything other than the coin of the realm in trade for food or other goods & services he provides, though like anyone else in the Barony, he may choose to accept trade in kind.
There is a question I need to find an answer to before I make any further statements on this matter, so I ask for your patience, and to please not continue posting on this matter until I have my answer.
I feel you deserve some further explanation and clarification on these matters.
Edwin Haroldson is within the law to offer to store your valuables in exchange for a small fee. As long as he does not change the fee and then refuse to release your holdings, or otherwise break the terms of the contact he has offered you, this remains legal.
You are not required to make use of this service, if you do not feel it is a good deal. If at any point he requires that you use his service in order to purchase goods from him, then the Magistrate's office will look into the matter further.
He is also not required to accept anything other than the coin of the realm in trade for food or other goods & services he provides, though like anyone else in the Barony, he may choose to accept trade in kind.
There is a question I need to find an answer to before I make any further statements on this matter, so I ask for your patience, and to please not continue posting on this matter until I have my answer.
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