On Our Kingdom

8 years 2 months ago #152148 by Ilana Darkwood (Ilana_Darkwood)
Pardon me Father Ephrem,

The suggestion I made was quite serious. No King is required. We need rulers who actually interact with their people to know them.

-Keola

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8 years 2 months ago - 8 years 2 months ago #152149 by Grumpy (Bookwyrm)
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The following is written in an elegant, neat hand that does not match the rough parchment conveying it.

Keola, your point is understood, yet it is not one we can work with. The laws of Kormyre are ancient; so ancient that they have affected the surrounding lands, and perhaps are not even native to the ancient empire of the last age. We may never know for certain. But that antiquity is the very thing that creates our difficulty today. For as hard as it is to change, it is harder still when it is the only thing that an entire nation has known for thousands of years.

We already have a disruption in that our king was the last of a long-standing dynasty. To completely reject the very idea of a kingship would only create more problems. And with what would we replace it? A council? Who would be chosen for this? Who would lead it? Why would that situation not be different from the King and his advisers and nobles?

Yet even that pales next to the threat of civil war this news will bring. Even now, the kingdom is reeling in shock as the word rapidly spreads. The news has likely already reached the western baronies and is spreading to every hamlet in the realm. We must have stability. I am not aware of any situation where there was not even a cousin to take the throne since the beginning of this age thirteen hundred years ago; I may be wrong, as the topic bored me in school, but I do recall my instructor mentioning that the royal line of Kormyre dates back to the last age.

Continuity is key. I do not even pretend to understand all the precedents in Kormyrian law, but I do know that the typical succession laws of nobles are based on the Kormyrian model. Inheritance of office must go to the oldest relative in the most direct line. This is why a queen, for example, does not become monarch after the king dies, or vice versa, for the royal consort's lineage does not pass through the previous monarch.

Here, we have no such clear path. We have not even a half-overgrown path. We must blaze new ground in this present crisis, which means we must prevent wholesale destruction of any obstacle in our way. We must carefully consider the least disruptive way through this tangled forest, lest we irreparably damage the very thing we seek to save.

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8 years 2 months ago #152161 by Donald MacFhionnlaigh (raidr0933)
This is Sassenach lands, an' while we Highlanders govern by a council o' Chieftains, this is na possible fra you. Let me know who needs a kickin', an' whose hearth needs guardin'.

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8 years 1 month ago #152187 by Captain Cade Tanwyn (Cade Tanwyn)
I thought I heard Jack Thorne was next in line. after all we could rearrange the letters of his last name and call him His Grace Jack Throne.

In all seriousness though we need to find a leader of character and strength of conviction. And we need someone who will be present. Too often our leaders disappear but still hold onto their positions rather than passing their responsibilities on to another who would invest in the people. At the end of the day Jack would be a good choice. As would a few others. I suggest we take this time and truly look at what Travance needs.

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8 years 1 month ago #152197 by Liz (Liz)
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I very much dislike putting any type of comment regarding this topic in writing however I do wish to note the following:

This is going to be the ruler of Kormyre.

Not of Travance.

Travance will follow this ruler as law demands however the "Best for Travance" does not equate to the "Best for Kormyre." Also, to expect this King or Queen to constantly know every single person is quite impossible. To have them at least be an ally to us is all I would personally expect.

As for the coming storm, Travance is ready for this. The politics... maybe not so much. I would appreciate incoming updates on who would be coming here and when so that the Guard is prepared.

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8 years 1 month ago #152307 by Ilana Darkwood (Ilana_Darkwood)
I was enjoying my holiday, I apologize for the delay in my response.

To comment on Grigori’s idea of the kingdom, if we’re going to use natural terms:

Things so ancient and unwilling to change sometimes need to be burned and cleared away. Like a wildfire to a pine forest. The tangled underbrush you refer to is dying plants that need to be cleared out or the decay will continue building up until it snuffs out the chance for new life.

The passing of the young king with his lost family is exactly the time to attempt a change. It is the spark to help the kingdom begin to grow.

Much of my memory may be gone, but I am old like this kingdom is and I understand what it is to adapt and grow so I think we should give the people the chance to do the same. It will not happen overnight, humans take far too much of their short life span to learn things sometimes. But, give them a chance to learn and try.

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Hm, rereading this I realized it may come across as ‘burn the kingdom down’ to anyone quick to jump on that kind of thinking. What I mean is try and establish a better form of rulership/government.

I can think of many kingdoms that can quickly be made unhappy because of their kings and queens.

-Keola

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