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7 years 10 months ago #162984
by Caelvan
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Replied by Caelvan on topic On The Declaration of Rule
I would advise to heed the words written by Dennis and Cara.
Fearing expansion, that may never come, can make things worse for all involved. If Travance wants to get involved with an issue before it is even a definite issue then that is fine and within your right to do so. However, until it is certain that these individuals will start conquering neighboring nations, it is entirely speculation. Cause fear into the masses and you will have more issues to worry about than this Duke trying to take the throne.
I've met Lord Pyre and he seemed to be an honorable man. I wouldn't expect him to back this plan unless it was for the good of the land and people he presides over.
Do what you choose Travance. But remember, the world is always watching.
-Ser Caelvan Renaith McKraegar
-March Warden of Selendrias
Fearing expansion, that may never come, can make things worse for all involved. If Travance wants to get involved with an issue before it is even a definite issue then that is fine and within your right to do so. However, until it is certain that these individuals will start conquering neighboring nations, it is entirely speculation. Cause fear into the masses and you will have more issues to worry about than this Duke trying to take the throne.
I've met Lord Pyre and he seemed to be an honorable man. I wouldn't expect him to back this plan unless it was for the good of the land and people he presides over.
Do what you choose Travance. But remember, the world is always watching.
-Ser Caelvan Renaith McKraegar
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7 years 10 months ago #162996
by kelley.commeford@gmail.com
Wilindé Aläciel
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I can check this paper for forgery, if you still need someone. I have a keen eye.
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7 years 10 months ago #163000
by NalickDeMarche
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For those keen eyes to spot anything amiss aside from a signatory's signature, we would need a sample of the Duke's writing, in either of the current provinces he resides over or from Glangsdale or Talenthal, where he oversaw up until relatively recently.
Perhaps it is divine providence that Glangsdale also happens to be the home of the Church, that they can shed some Light on this.
~Nalick
Perhaps it is divine providence that Glangsdale also happens to be the home of the Church, that they can shed some Light on this.
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7 years 10 months ago #163004
by Wellby
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Lets consider the options,
Could be a ruse. Kormyrian nobles know what would happen if they came to blows with Travancian nobles. Duke's name keeps coming up in secret attacks against Travance over the last several months. Never heard a hereditary noble more anxiously state their primacy:"Distant blood relative". Who emphasizes the weakness of their claim?
If it is in fact the courts of Kormyre attempting to seize the reins alone- then this will be over quickly. I suspect Gaalderon has plenty to do with this as their divine mandate is to subjugate all before Enax. Doubt they'd forget the word of their living God over a piece of paper. At best they are biding their time while leveraging the mainland nobles. Maybe they are trying to reclaim their errant nationhood.
Just Some Thoughts,
Could be a ruse. Kormyrian nobles know what would happen if they came to blows with Travancian nobles. Duke's name keeps coming up in secret attacks against Travance over the last several months. Never heard a hereditary noble more anxiously state their primacy:"Distant blood relative". Who emphasizes the weakness of their claim?
If it is in fact the courts of Kormyre attempting to seize the reins alone- then this will be over quickly. I suspect Gaalderon has plenty to do with this as their divine mandate is to subjugate all before Enax. Doubt they'd forget the word of their living God over a piece of paper. At best they are biding their time while leveraging the mainland nobles. Maybe they are trying to reclaim their errant nationhood.
Just Some Thoughts,
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7 years 10 months ago #163012
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"Fall not into the depths of despair."
Replied by HayleyAnnV on topic On The Declaration of Rule
My, I wasn't expecting to return from the Underdark and find ourselves in the midst of such a fiasco. Never a dull moment.
It seems, right now, that we're in need of more information. I will have to see about finding someone capable of portaling me to Ravenhurst. I have been overdue for a trip home, I suppose. Since neither of my parents have signed their names upon this declaration, I can only hope that they do, in fact, stand against the Duke's plans. I truly pray that they do not lack love for the Kormyrian military, otherwise this will be quite the... awkward trip.
I shall learn what I can and return in a few day's time. Be safe out there.
-Odette D. Lucatiel
It seems, right now, that we're in need of more information. I will have to see about finding someone capable of portaling me to Ravenhurst. I have been overdue for a trip home, I suppose. Since neither of my parents have signed their names upon this declaration, I can only hope that they do, in fact, stand against the Duke's plans. I truly pray that they do not lack love for the Kormyrian military, otherwise this will be quite the... awkward trip.
I shall learn what I can and return in a few day's time. Be safe out there.
-Odette D. Lucatiel
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7 years 9 months ago #163018
by bamore62
Father Ephrem
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the Heart of Valos
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Replied by bamore62 on topic On The Declaration of Rule
To my fellow Travancians,
Since there has been an offer of a solution along a particular "theological" line, I too would offer words and thoughts - hopefully clear and rational thoughts - upon the present situation in Kormyre. I can help to offer solutions at a later time, but for now I will ask Travance to keep these points in mind while seeking solutions:
We have turmoil in the Kingdom. There is a possibility of civil war. It will be the innocent and the vulnerable, along with the common soldier, who will suffer the most in such conflict. Let us keep that in mind when seeking solutions.
Any military conflict
a) should be entered upon only to correct a grave and public evil,
b) should be used for a just cause and solely for that purpose (for example: increasing economic gain or political power would not be a just reason to wage war; defense of a rightful and just ruler would be),
c) should be declared by a competent authority that does not itself repress justice,
d) should clearly show that the just benefits of the military action must be proportionally greater than the inevitable evils that result from such action, and
e) should only come about after all peaceful and viable alternatives are exhausted, then it should be done swiftly and with great purpose and courage (as the King of Light would do himself).
We have on either side of this conflict a Count and a Duke, both making claim to determine the rightful successor to the throne. Truth is the most precious item necessary to find a solution - hopefully a peaceful solution. Making a decision on a course of action is easy; it is in finding all the information necessary to make that decision where we find our greatest challenge. Many Travancians posting on the Inn's boards have promised to seek information and truth; this is good, this is what we need. I myself will do the same.
So far we have evidence of intent based upon the words of this circulated document and the past actions of those involved. Much needs to be weighed, but must be done quickly before conflict arises. If conflict does arise, let not the goal be tainted by evil means, and let it be done with a swift and firm hand.
My apologies if I have stated the obvious; it is not meant to insult the intelligence of any readers of this post. May all our actions done for the good of our Kingdom be guided by justice and virtue.
Yours in Light,
Since there has been an offer of a solution along a particular "theological" line, I too would offer words and thoughts - hopefully clear and rational thoughts - upon the present situation in Kormyre. I can help to offer solutions at a later time, but for now I will ask Travance to keep these points in mind while seeking solutions:
We have turmoil in the Kingdom. There is a possibility of civil war. It will be the innocent and the vulnerable, along with the common soldier, who will suffer the most in such conflict. Let us keep that in mind when seeking solutions.
Any military conflict
a) should be entered upon only to correct a grave and public evil,
b) should be used for a just cause and solely for that purpose (for example: increasing economic gain or political power would not be a just reason to wage war; defense of a rightful and just ruler would be),
c) should be declared by a competent authority that does not itself repress justice,
d) should clearly show that the just benefits of the military action must be proportionally greater than the inevitable evils that result from such action, and
e) should only come about after all peaceful and viable alternatives are exhausted, then it should be done swiftly and with great purpose and courage (as the King of Light would do himself).
We have on either side of this conflict a Count and a Duke, both making claim to determine the rightful successor to the throne. Truth is the most precious item necessary to find a solution - hopefully a peaceful solution. Making a decision on a course of action is easy; it is in finding all the information necessary to make that decision where we find our greatest challenge. Many Travancians posting on the Inn's boards have promised to seek information and truth; this is good, this is what we need. I myself will do the same.
So far we have evidence of intent based upon the words of this circulated document and the past actions of those involved. Much needs to be weighed, but must be done quickly before conflict arises. If conflict does arise, let not the goal be tainted by evil means, and let it be done with a swift and firm hand.
My apologies if I have stated the obvious; it is not meant to insult the intelligence of any readers of this post. May all our actions done for the good of our Kingdom be guided by justice and virtue.
Yours in Light,
Father Ephrem
Primus of the Church of Light in Travance
the Heart of Valos
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