Rules Update: Two-Handed Weapons, and skills that benefit them (+ List Updates)

Nice.... now it's only a matter of time until I can berserker rage.... just got to wait until level 7.

In case of emergency, berserker rage

actually in any case it's always good to have a berserker in your back pocket, or in your wallet, never leave your cabin without one!

second question:  For the re-write can I use a combo of build and cashing in of old skills, for example if i drop a weapon prof for 10 can I just add 5new build to get strength+1 for 15, and can I wait a few games to do it as long as its still in the 3 month period?
Thanks

if for example you mean that you have 5 build unspent, and you decide to drop a WP and use that total build to get a strength + 1. then yes that you can do.

When you retrain, you do NOT learn new skills - you just free up Build invested in old ones.  So in this case, you could drop a Prof, get 10 build back, and then you would need to learn Strength +1 the normal way, with 5 additional build.

The complete retraining rules are at:

www.knightrealms.com/component/content/a...-your-character.html

Given that Spirit is 10 build, and you're not 7th yet, it would probably make sense to take the 10 from Spirit, put it towards Strength, and then save up for Spirit at 7th.  That would be in the spirit of the rules (no pun intended), and wouldn't involve you blowing your Retrain use, which you might want to save for later.  As always, Sam & James have final say in matters with cards.

Actually, Geoff and Derrick, I don't believe thats how this kind of situation works, in either case.

In the past, whenever a list has been changed rules wise, it doesn't work the same way as your once ever retraining opportunity works.  One can change around any build spent in that list that was changed in order to comply with the new prereqs or skills.  One could not, however, use unspent build in this sort of retrain.  So, in this case when these particular lists have been completely overhauled, it is usually the case that the player is allowed to respend build already put into the changed list - but only within that particular list. 

For instance:  I have several stunning blows and a few weapon profs off Warrior.  In order to comply with these new rulings, I could drop a weapon prof (10) and a stunning blow (5) that I already have, and exchange it for a Strength (15), since that is now on the warrior list and necessary for a number of the skills already on my card.  What I could not do, however, is move around build that I'd previously spent on Druid spells, or use unspent build I have lying around to buy the Strength outright without a teacher.  I could also decide I don't want my Stunning Blows anymore due to the rules change, and drop them all to just get the build back.

That sounds overly complicated - Hopefully Sam will chime in tomorrow and clarify - or correct me if my take on the situation is incorrect.  Basically, the next couple events will have logistics crowded as he attempts to work with all these re-writes and the confusion it will ensue, as often it is a case by case issue.  So please be kind and patient.

Kristen is correct. When a list receives a fundamental change that alters a bunch of pre-reqs such as the rogue re-write from years ago I allow full respends of those lists (within reason).

thank you kristen and sam for clairifing.