Rules Updates effective 6/16/2008

If I got courage from the priest list, does that mean I don't have it anymore? 'Cause it's not there anymore?

Waah.

If I got courage from the priest list, does that mean I don't have it anymore? 'Cause it's not there anymore?

Yep, unless you have another list that has courage, then you just have it from that list for its build cost.

Oh, and you can generally assume that if a skill is pulled from a list that it is no longer a pre-req for anything on that list. But in the interest of thoroughness I went ahead and edited the original post for the Priest list entry.

Sorry, yes, that means the skill will be removed from your character. But, that means you have 3 build to spend on something new. Hooray! 

The Priest list will (eventually) receive some of the new land system related skills at a considerable discount over the Common list costs.

And on that note, I swear to God progress is being made, and I hope it will thrill everyone when it goes live. The enormous delay is due to my intention to create a system in which every PC has the opporunity to take actions; with that in mind I hope you can forgive the time that it's taking. We will, in all likelihood, have an "open enrollment" event the month that the system goes live, and PCs will have the opportunity to purchase - for immediate use - skills associated with the land system. We recognize that many people have role-played a level of involvement on that front, and we don't want to create a situation where, because we have finally put rules to it, your characters are all struck dumb until someone teaches you how to do it again. Look toward the September event, and if you'll want to do something high-minded like be an engineer or legal counsel, you'll want to have 5-8 build bankrolled; some professions will be able to take action without the need for skills beyond what is currently on their lists (healers and priests, for example)

And it doesn't, if you go back to the original post. I get the sense you were unclear on that, but if we intended a pre-req it would have been listed there.

Ah, that is where I was confused.  From what I saw, everyone who had Florentine shows it with a Small Weapon prerequisite, and it seemed like that was a necessity.  Thank you for that clarification.

So you can get the skill and acquire Small Weapon off of Common if you want to use just Florentine, or you can, upon becoming a Master Warrior, get Master Florentine and fight with two 1HEs. The idea here is that, in our opinion, Master Florentine is truly a masterful style for the Ronin profession; therefore, we didn't want it available on the profession list, but we did need to provide the Ronin with access to Florentine if you do want to go that route, because it's the pre-req for Master Florentine on the Master Warrior list. Hence the way it is now.

I can't find the Master Florentine skill description, but from what I read above, it allows for a person to fight with two 1HE/B of the same length.  Is Bastard not allowed to be used with Master Florentine?

Florentine Master allows you to fight wielding two weapons of 1HE / B size or smaller simultaneously.

I understand the confusion now. That abbreviation should be read "1 Handed Edged / Blunt". With the word 'size' immediately after it, I can see why you'd interpret it to be 1HE or Bastard, but that's not what is intended. Sorry for the confusion!

No the fault is mine as I read it incorrectly and became confused.  I'm sorry.  Thank you for the PM and clarifications.