Stand up for what is right
- Draven Erdboren

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- "Let my armies be the rocks and the trees, and the birds in the sky."
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12 years 2 months ago #92534
by Draven Erdboren (Grundill)
Replied by Draven Erdboren (Grundill) on topic Stand up for what is right
Only recently we have Galadelians slaughtering Galadelians.
How soon we choose to forget our own actions. It seems that many follow their path, only when convenient to them.
We all stood shoulder to shoulder with evils this past moon. NOT ONE OF YOU put blade to bone on towns members, no matter how 'evil' you view them, nor how vile their crimes may have been. Now that you feel they have served a purpose, you wish to rid them.
Natural order will always find balance.
It was the overwhelming evil of Xualla that brought us the Pegasus, BALANCE between good and evil.
For every evil you remove, another will take its place, it is the natural order of life, BALANCE.
And i propose to you, the evil you know, the evil you can watch, is that not the better, than the evil you never see coming ?
How soon we choose to forget our own actions. It seems that many follow their path, only when convenient to them.
We all stood shoulder to shoulder with evils this past moon. NOT ONE OF YOU put blade to bone on towns members, no matter how 'evil' you view them, nor how vile their crimes may have been. Now that you feel they have served a purpose, you wish to rid them.
Natural order will always find balance.
It was the overwhelming evil of Xualla that brought us the Pegasus, BALANCE between good and evil.
For every evil you remove, another will take its place, it is the natural order of life, BALANCE.
And i propose to you, the evil you know, the evil you can watch, is that not the better, than the evil you never see coming ?
- Draven Erdboren

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12 years 2 months ago #92535
by Draven Erdboren (Grundill)
Dr. DeMontfort,
You do realize that WE were the cause of that rebellion do you not ? Travances actions as a WHOLE lead to the peasantry seeking to destroy us. We let monsters tear through the countryside, but as it was outside of our borders, we cared not for it.
The EVILS in this town, are not with religion on either side, but with what men and woman of ANY FAITH have done for 'the betterment of the town'
how many cut down the peasants who partook of Xuallas blood? how many women, children, husbands, fathers, sons and daughters have we taken ?
That horrible feast we watched entire towns worth of peasants die by our hands directly. So those who speak of needless torture, pointless violence, look around you, look at all of us, because we all have blood on our hands. And the sooner we realize that WE are the problem, the sooner we can fix it.
Light seeks to Destroy Dark,
Dark seeks to Devour Light,
The most powerful Light, will only find the DARKEST OF BLACK.
i fear that continued actions in this direction, BREAKING the balance, will only lead to more, and greater threats to ourselves.
I seek not to change any minds. But only to offer, what i hope to be, an overseen perspective.
Replied by Draven Erdboren (Grundill) on topic Stand up for what is right
Dr. DeMontfort III wrote: What of the peasants and others we're supposed to protect? Are they to be sheep to the slaughter? We need to realize it's not just about Travance anymore. The rebellion earlier this year should have showed us that.
Dr. DeMontfort,
You do realize that WE were the cause of that rebellion do you not ? Travances actions as a WHOLE lead to the peasantry seeking to destroy us. We let monsters tear through the countryside, but as it was outside of our borders, we cared not for it.
The EVILS in this town, are not with religion on either side, but with what men and woman of ANY FAITH have done for 'the betterment of the town'
how many cut down the peasants who partook of Xuallas blood? how many women, children, husbands, fathers, sons and daughters have we taken ?
That horrible feast we watched entire towns worth of peasants die by our hands directly. So those who speak of needless torture, pointless violence, look around you, look at all of us, because we all have blood on our hands. And the sooner we realize that WE are the problem, the sooner we can fix it.
Light seeks to Destroy Dark,
Dark seeks to Devour Light,
The most powerful Light, will only find the DARKEST OF BLACK.
i fear that continued actions in this direction, BREAKING the balance, will only lead to more, and greater threats to ourselves.
I seek not to change any minds. But only to offer, what i hope to be, an overseen perspective.
- Birgitta Drexel

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12 years 2 months ago - 12 years 2 months ago #92536
by Birgitta Drexel (Birgitta)
Birgitta Drexel (Primary)
Commander of Training Baronial Militia
Blood Spirits (Cmd/Sgt)
Blue Dragoon
"Amateurs Practice Until They Get It Right; Professionals Practice Until They Can’t Get It Wrong"
Callisto Boyington (Alt)
Cav.
AKA Leslie McCormack
Replied by Birgitta Drexel (Birgitta) on topic Stand up for what is right
Thou art either good or evil? If so then I must have been evil prior to my fear and evil being ripped from me in sacrifice to create a balance that some here deny.
Now I suppose since that fear and evil was taken that I am now good. And I was baptized to the Church of Valos as a child... So if I was Good under that guise where did that evil stem? I have tithed to the church seen to its ways been blessed in times of need and raised my sword unpaid I. Defense of others repeatedly.
Standing up for what is right is dependent on the past memories and teaching of the individual. To attack a citizen is against the law. To defend oneself is not... To the law the outward aggressor is wrong. Not right.
Doc. If you have seen my message on going to the Highlands and you are bent on rebuilding will you be coming with us?
Mind you I am not defending the Dark clergy but simply putting out there the laws view.
B. Drexel
Now I suppose since that fear and evil was taken that I am now good. And I was baptized to the Church of Valos as a child... So if I was Good under that guise where did that evil stem? I have tithed to the church seen to its ways been blessed in times of need and raised my sword unpaid I. Defense of others repeatedly.
Standing up for what is right is dependent on the past memories and teaching of the individual. To attack a citizen is against the law. To defend oneself is not... To the law the outward aggressor is wrong. Not right.
Doc. If you have seen my message on going to the Highlands and you are bent on rebuilding will you be coming with us?
Mind you I am not defending the Dark clergy but simply putting out there the laws view.
B. Drexel
Birgitta Drexel (Primary)
Commander of Training Baronial Militia
Blood Spirits (Cmd/Sgt)
Blue Dragoon
"Amateurs Practice Until They Get It Right; Professionals Practice Until They Can’t Get It Wrong"
Callisto Boyington (Alt)
Cav.
AKA Leslie McCormack
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- Father Nikolai

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12 years 2 months ago #92538
by Father Nikolai (ertsyperts)
Father Nikolai
Matthew E.
Replied by Father Nikolai (ertsyperts) on topic Stand up for what is right
Squire Erdboren,
Yes I realize that we did cause the unrest among the population. We need to move on from the brink and start being responsible for our actions. We are the last beacon that people are looking up to as evidenced by those in the Highlands hoping we could win. The world will look to us for guidance and our actions are going to forge the world in the coming days. Any decision the town makes regarding the Dark Clergy will be seen and taken to heart by the rest of the survivors.
Birgitta,
I am not just bent on rebuilding I also made mention of beating our swords to plowshares would be foolish I am merely looking for a path that will best suit not only us but those we guard. And I must say I have seen your message but am not going with you. I am preparing to head to Alok Molagan to determine the fate of any human slaves if any exist.
Yes I realize that we did cause the unrest among the population. We need to move on from the brink and start being responsible for our actions. We are the last beacon that people are looking up to as evidenced by those in the Highlands hoping we could win. The world will look to us for guidance and our actions are going to forge the world in the coming days. Any decision the town makes regarding the Dark Clergy will be seen and taken to heart by the rest of the survivors.
Birgitta,
I am not just bent on rebuilding I also made mention of beating our swords to plowshares would be foolish I am merely looking for a path that will best suit not only us but those we guard. And I must say I have seen your message but am not going with you. I am preparing to head to Alok Molagan to determine the fate of any human slaves if any exist.
Father Nikolai
Matthew E.
- Templar Aldric

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12 years 2 months ago #92539
by Templar Aldric (Selrik)
Replied by Templar Aldric (Selrik) on topic Stand up for what is right
The Law will suffice to bring the balance that writing balance in letters large and in all capital letters will not. Good and Evil are moral choices, and subjective to the person and cannot by themselves establish legal precedent.
If worship of Dark Gods does not require illegal acts perhaps a way forward in co-existence can be found. Any other talk of balance is nonsensical. There is no balance between Good and Evil, by their definition. We may, eventually, find a balance between Law and Chaos, but the line will be finer than a dagger's blade. Break the Law, pay the price. There can be no bias in the application of a code of Law we have lived under all our lives. The citizens who choose Dark Gods do so in peril of breaking the Law, not because they worship Dark Gods, but because the Dark Gods require them to break the Law.
All citizens are sworn both to uphold the King's Law as well as comply themselves. That is the way of it. No arguments, debates or further capital letters need be said.
If worship of Dark Gods does not require illegal acts perhaps a way forward in co-existence can be found. Any other talk of balance is nonsensical. There is no balance between Good and Evil, by their definition. We may, eventually, find a balance between Law and Chaos, but the line will be finer than a dagger's blade. Break the Law, pay the price. There can be no bias in the application of a code of Law we have lived under all our lives. The citizens who choose Dark Gods do so in peril of breaking the Law, not because they worship Dark Gods, but because the Dark Gods require them to break the Law.
All citizens are sworn both to uphold the King's Law as well as comply themselves. That is the way of it. No arguments, debates or further capital letters need be said.
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- Narcis

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12 years 2 months ago #92541
by Narcis (ChrisR)
OOG:Chris R.
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Replied by Narcis (ChrisR) on topic Stand up for what is right
I am certain I am not the last hope for all innocent people in the world.
I would be most disgusted if I was. People should not assume that someone else will save them. They should not assume a law will stop those who would see them dead, or protect those who follow them.
The law will not stop anyone whose convictions are strong enough and follow their own path. Good or Evil.
Again, it will be exciting to see what happens when people do what they desire, in accordance or not in accordance to the law.
-Ava
I would be most disgusted if I was. People should not assume that someone else will save them. They should not assume a law will stop those who would see them dead, or protect those who follow them.
The law will not stop anyone whose convictions are strong enough and follow their own path. Good or Evil.
Again, it will be exciting to see what happens when people do what they desire, in accordance or not in accordance to the law.
-Ava
OOG:Chris R.
Storyteller / Marshal
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