Confessions
- Caelvan

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11 years 5 months ago - 11 years 5 months ago #107036
by Caelvan (Caelvan)
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Gal'Azin Merikh Tazam
Death's Will
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Replied by Caelvan (Caelvan) on topic Confessions
**Not Caelvan**
I have taken confessions of many back home in AmonZad.
So I will be glad to do so here in Travance if people would like to come to me.
Also any questions on The Reaper I am willing to discuss this topic as well.
Merikh
Priest of Galmachis.
I have taken confessions of many back home in AmonZad.
So I will be glad to do so here in Travance if people would like to come to me.
Also any questions on The Reaper I am willing to discuss this topic as well.
Merikh
Priest of Galmachis.
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Gal'Azin Merikh Tazam
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Last edit: 11 years 5 months ago by Caelvan (Caelvan).
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11 years 5 months ago #107041
by Templar Aldric (Selrik)
Replied by Templar Aldric (Selrik) on topic Re:Re: Confessions
While certainly not my meaning when I recommended speaking to ordained clergy, thine point is taken. However, I caution all seekers of truth to be careful of the source.
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11 years 5 months ago #107043
by Verrill Lebastion (Wellby)
Replied by Verrill Lebastion (Wellby) on topic Re:Re: Confessions
Father Haroldson,
Thank you. Your response was to the point and educational and I thank you for it.
Angeliana,
What? I apologize, I grew up in a community that was devoid of faith and I came to you, as a woman of faith, for guidance in this matter. I hope that my simple inquiry as to the traditions of your faith were not perceived as a threat, but perhaps I was mistaken in my view of your Goddess being one of compassion and patience.
In Education and Learning,
Thank you. Your response was to the point and educational and I thank you for it.
Angeliana,
What? I apologize, I grew up in a community that was devoid of faith and I came to you, as a woman of faith, for guidance in this matter. I hope that my simple inquiry as to the traditions of your faith were not perceived as a threat, but perhaps I was mistaken in my view of your Goddess being one of compassion and patience.
In Education and Learning,
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11 years 5 months ago #107044
by Bladesworn (Bladesworn)
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Replied by Bladesworn (Bladesworn) on topic Confessions
Forgive my ignorance... but what exactly are people going to be confessing? I thought a majority of all "sins" are really crimes against either the Church or the Barony?
Doesn't each deity has his/her own set of rules regarding what is proper for each worshipper? Therefore a "sin" that a worshipper of Valos may perform could NOT be counted as a "sin" under the ethos of say, Galadel? or Brazen?
For most folks, if you have done some kind of wrong or sin, then...
the person you sinned against is gonna come find you & kick the ever living crap out of you for doing it against them...
someone from the Church or Barony finds out what you did wrong, & forces you to pay a fine or goto Jail...
Or whatever you did isn't all that bad or gets overlooked as some giant demon/werewolf/vampire/evil overlord/evil army/sea monster/moat beast/etc. is attacking Travance & we decide to table the discussion o later (ie we forget about it after the fight).
Doesn't each deity has his/her own set of rules regarding what is proper for each worshipper? Therefore a "sin" that a worshipper of Valos may perform could NOT be counted as a "sin" under the ethos of say, Galadel? or Brazen?
For most folks, if you have done some kind of wrong or sin, then...
the person you sinned against is gonna come find you & kick the ever living crap out of you for doing it against them...
someone from the Church or Barony finds out what you did wrong, & forces you to pay a fine or goto Jail...
Or whatever you did isn't all that bad or gets overlooked as some giant demon/werewolf/vampire/evil overlord/evil army/sea monster/moat beast/etc. is attacking Travance & we decide to table the discussion o later (ie we forget about it after the fight).
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11 years 5 months ago - 11 years 5 months ago #107048
by Cecilia Mercier (jsin)
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Replied by Cecilia Mercier (jsin) on topic Confessions
As I also am not of any faith - I would like to inquire what confessing entails. Is it a simply therapeutic process or will there actually be some interaction with your god? If so - are some of you more open to listening to one such as myself who holds none your gods in any sort of reverence?
Also as pointed out earlier - since most 'sins' are also crimes what is the actual level of autonomy and confidence being offered here? I'd hate to seem pessimistic or judging but seeing as an exchange that supposedly happened in private was referred to on this board, I find myself doubting.
Sincerly,
Cecilia Mercier
Vassal of Ostcliff
Also as pointed out earlier - since most 'sins' are also crimes what is the actual level of autonomy and confidence being offered here? I'd hate to seem pessimistic or judging but seeing as an exchange that supposedly happened in private was referred to on this board, I find myself doubting.
Sincerly,
Cecilia Mercier
Vassal of Ostcliff
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11 years 5 months ago #107057
by Templar Aldric (Selrik)
Replied by Templar Aldric (Selrik) on topic Confessions
The point made that different Gods' hold tenets that view specific moral wrongs as sins is partly the case, however I would add that all Gods of Light view Goodness as a set of modes of behavior in common.
It is the right of every being to live without fear, free from the threat of death or pain. It is the right of every being to live without disease and corruption, the right of the sick to be healed, and to live a life free from random destruction and enslavement. Those are the basic tenets all of the Gods of Light profess. That is our collective mission.
What Mother Angeliana is offering, is an ear. Her kind heart to listen to thine troubles, offer advice when asked, and above all keep faith with those who come to her. That means discussing the evils we have done in our lives, providing a path to repent, and ultimately showing thee a way out of the hole thee dig when thine path leads to Darkness. There is always a chance for redemption, and we all are committed to finding that path with thee.
Some criticize the Church for not being involved with the rest of our citizens, this is one way that we are trying to change that. A Journey of a thousand leagues begins with but one simple step forward. Allow Mother Angeliana, or another Light Clergy, to take that step with thee.
It is the right of every being to live without fear, free from the threat of death or pain. It is the right of every being to live without disease and corruption, the right of the sick to be healed, and to live a life free from random destruction and enslavement. Those are the basic tenets all of the Gods of Light profess. That is our collective mission.
What Mother Angeliana is offering, is an ear. Her kind heart to listen to thine troubles, offer advice when asked, and above all keep faith with those who come to her. That means discussing the evils we have done in our lives, providing a path to repent, and ultimately showing thee a way out of the hole thee dig when thine path leads to Darkness. There is always a chance for redemption, and we all are committed to finding that path with thee.
Some criticize the Church for not being involved with the rest of our citizens, this is one way that we are trying to change that. A Journey of a thousand leagues begins with but one simple step forward. Allow Mother Angeliana, or another Light Clergy, to take that step with thee.
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