Concerning the Proposed Deal with the Abyssal Lords of Fire & Ice

Based on this information the problem seems to be finding a replacement for the abyssal lord of Earth. Kalen Maitel does not want to rule that plane which he inherited through combat so maybe what we need to do it help someone who wants to be an abyssal lord inherit it from him. The new lord could go home and close the gate behind him. If there has to be an abyssal lord at least lets find one that has ties to our plane.

I am not sure what kind of person or being would want the job but it seems better to help a new one than defeating and imprisoning the old one.

Berek

This does remind me of the moral standoff between many of those in town who practice arts of Light and Dark when we were amidst the Null situation; no ground to be made on either side, merely an opportunity for opinions to be tossed about. Hopefully, in this open forum, things will turn out to be productive.

Though they be of Chaos, and misdeeds be their game, the Demons of Ice and Fire have just as much to lose as we do. Those who know me know I am aligned to Light powers, and that I folly not in the Dark, Evil, nor Chaotic arts. I am in no way partial to working with these beings. But if there is some way in which we could ally with the Demons of Ice and Fire without getting the short end of the stick, I would be interested. To choose the difficult path, thus taking longer to handle the situation, as well as perhaps losing any semblance of treaty between those "allied" Demons and ourselves, is to guarantee the deaths of many.

I am not saying to walk blindly into agreement. I merely request we view the contract cautiously and proceed only if we can guarantee our safety and the safety of the innocent lives we would be signing away. To turn away good help would be foolish at best, and at worst, we could cease to exist. I see nothing wrong with considering the contract before deciding to sign it or not, lest you desire to live in contempt of what could have been, should things go sour.

In the name of Life,

~Ergos

Berek,

I would have to directly disagree, we want the opposite of a being with ties to our plane. Ties to Arawyn are what have drawn Kalen away from his seat upon the Abyssal Throne of Earth.

--MW

P.S. Goodness sakes, Ergos, you're learning quickly.

So the idea of replacing the abyssal lord of earth is on the table but we need to discuss who? Do we have access to being from other planes?

Berek

Mantel-

With your update on how the Earth King feels about this, please come see me at your convenience to discuss how to purify the Prince. Keeping in mind that this might also be a way to transfer the Lord of Earth’s powers to someone/something else as well...

I will be in my office.

Honorably,

Mae Fang

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Ergos wrote: But if there is some way in which we could ally with the Demons of Ice and Fire without getting the short end of the stick, I would be interested. To choose the difficult path, thus taking longer to handle the situation, as well as perhaps losing any semblance of treaty between those "allied" Demons and ourselves, is to guarantee the deaths of many.

I merely request we view the contract cautiously and proceed only if we can guarantee our safety and the safety of the innocent lives we would be signing away.

-We will be getting the short end of the stick.
- 'Treaty' is probably the wrong word to be using. Though, Mother may 'renew' her 'will not harass Travance' for another year. However, she can't keep all her demons away anyways.
-Looking at the contract is important, signing or not, in my opinion.