Concerning the Proposed Deal with the Abyssal Lords of Fire & Ice

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8 years 2 months ago - 8 years 2 months ago #151380 by Ephrem (bamore62)
With but a mere glance at the contract.

Too many loopholes.
Too many ambiguities by letter of the law that we could suffer the effects of these two demons - or any of their abyssal allies.
Too many times that demons have contributed to the suffering of the people of Arawyn - which might or might not speak to these particular pair of demons and their obsequious imp, but certainly should make us give pause.

Is this true that they seek to "help us" do all the work?
They provide information. Could we not seek another means of information: the faerie, our scholars, other allies?
They promise to cease any offensive actions for six months if we help them? That sounds more like extortion.

I will peruse this document further with more than an ounce of skepticism and with much attention to the details of the law within the context of justice and light.

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8 years 2 months ago #151387 by SlightlySaneBillliamm (SlightlySaneBillliamm)
We await your counter offer. This is just a draft. Write a counter proposal for me to bring to them that is more fair.

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8 years 2 months ago #151397 by Nalick (NalickDeMarche)
My counter offer:

Surrender.

When there are demons before the Barony, Travance is not what lies belly up in the aftermath.
We rise victorious.
May this serve as merely the latest example.
We will not shirk from our duty.
We will fly high the banner of the Kingdom.
We will bleed blue and red.

We will rise, as Julie did against Xualla,

In defiance.

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8 years 2 months ago - 8 years 2 months ago #151398 by Verrill Lebastion (Wellby)
I speak only as a subject to the King of Kormyre and a mortal man,

Demons are predicated on self-interest and entropy. The laws and contracts they construe are built to bind their constituents and free themselves based on their abuse of language and good faith. Bring forth all breed of devil and I shall make dalliance with them, for their word is that of God.

Those of common ken will forget the wounds their kind have dealt our kin but God does not forget their trespasses, so I shall honor my covenant and grant them no such lenience in this matter. They wish this earth king returned; we may grant them this in pieces with their aid to our exact measure and order, but they shall send us forces to distribute in good faith. A contract is often between peers, and the incursion has proved that they are no peer.

In essence; Plow demons. Plow the demonic lords and ladies. Plow their entire plane.

They have not yet earned our favor.
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8 years 2 months ago #151404 by JTinney (Swordsaint)
The better proposal...

The assembled forces of Fire and Ice do the heavy lifting/fighting to return their brother back to the proper seat. Travance secures the borders of the conflict to attempt there are no leakers getting away, to include the renegade lord- in essence, we provide security and a cordon on the area being fought in. A bit more efficient use of available resources.

This ultimately is their problem... If they truly want help and to not set us up for conquest, then they should be doing the lion-share of the work and Travance supports their efforts. While it does not eliminate the prospect of double-cross by Mother and Jailor, it makes the prospect of it happening substantially smaller.

This original proposal as put forth is shite and sets Travance up for failure; it is Travancian Blood, Sweat, Energy and Tears being used and expended... which sets the Barony up for being assaulted by its enemies. A fools choice.

I genuinely do not see them rushing to help us should Tamaria decide now is the time to invade- winter or no- or if one of their fellow Lords decides to take Travance as a vacation spot.

This Brazen Priest says No- any one of the Flock would tell you that inaddition to being a shite idea, its is extremely inefficient and a giant suckhole of Travancian Resources.

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8 years 2 months ago #151413 by SlightlySaneBillliamm (SlightlySaneBillliamm)
We will be doing the "heavy lifting" if you agree to the contract. There is a lot of fighting in the Abyss that has to be done to make the Abyssal legionaires head your way and draw Kalen back to the portal. Things you mortals cannot do nor have to. Plus when you go into the Abyss the allied Lords will be protecting you from the most devastating effects of being a positive energy creature. You can ask the slayer, magnus, ilana, philidin, the vile lord aleister, and many others in your town how devastating existing in the Abyss is for you. Truly I am trying to help. The contract also means you will not turn on us as I see so many ready to destroy me.

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