On The Declaration of Rule
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7 years 3 months ago #162956
by Donald MacFhionnlaigh (raidr0933)
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Replied by Donald MacFhionnlaigh (raidr0933) on topic On The Declaration of Rule
Aleister, When ye all have your minds made, Let me know. I'm all fra deliverin' th' response. I ha' a feelin' it will be th' same proposition I made some slavers this summer.
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7 years 3 months ago #162959
by Chris D (Brogan)
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Lord Tartaros,
Would you have me attempt to contact the Sultan and find his stance on the matter. If these nobles plan to take lands with humans of any type in them he should be made aware. And allowed to prepare his response.
Amir
Would you have me attempt to contact the Sultan and find his stance on the matter. If these nobles plan to take lands with humans of any type in them he should be made aware. And allowed to prepare his response.
Amir
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7 years 3 months ago #162960
by Tom P (Father Ridigan)
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Replied by Tom P (Father Ridigan) on topic On The Declaration of Rule
We need not stop at humanity. Why should we assume this "Imperial Kormyre" will stop there.
If I remember correctly, the world's fair solidified alliances with several kingdoms, human and non human alike. As Silus Crone's apprentice, I met most of those delegates. Just say the word.
-Robert Morgan
If I remember correctly, the world's fair solidified alliances with several kingdoms, human and non human alike. As Silus Crone's apprentice, I met most of those delegates. Just say the word.
-Robert Morgan
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7 years 3 months ago - 7 years 3 months ago #162961
by Dennis Brand (Devin)
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Replied by Dennis Brand (Devin) on topic On The Declaration of Rule
Why should we assume anything at this point? There is so much infatuation with that words "Imperial" and "expansion" that this Declaration and those whose names are upon it are being vilified for nothing other than stating their general intent.
Expansion can come in a lot of different ways; it is not always a growing of borders or land grab. This expansion that is written of may be financial, cultural, diplomatic, or even internal. There is a lot of free & open land within the borders of Kormyre that the existing cities and villages can expand into. Travance his forever expanding from the Ports of Drega'mire to the highest peak of Pendarvin to the uncharted wood of Ostcliff.
The facts we know are this:
The Duke and his nobles want the fate of their kingdom to rest in their hands... much the same way the Travance does.
The Duke has a smattering of support from various Kormyrian nobility, most of whom are under his direct order... much the same way Travance does.
The Duke and his nobles have a questionably legitimate claim to the Throne... much the same way Travance does with Elijah. In fact, I'd even dare say the Duke's claim, should it be true, is stronger.
The Duke and his nobles are willing to fight for their cause... much the same way Travance is.
My point is that right now, until the next piece is in play, there is no difference between Vorllorn, Ravenhurst, and Travance.
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Expansion can come in a lot of different ways; it is not always a growing of borders or land grab. This expansion that is written of may be financial, cultural, diplomatic, or even internal. There is a lot of free & open land within the borders of Kormyre that the existing cities and villages can expand into. Travance his forever expanding from the Ports of Drega'mire to the highest peak of Pendarvin to the uncharted wood of Ostcliff.
The facts we know are this:
The Duke and his nobles want the fate of their kingdom to rest in their hands... much the same way the Travance does.
The Duke has a smattering of support from various Kormyrian nobility, most of whom are under his direct order... much the same way Travance does.
The Duke and his nobles have a questionably legitimate claim to the Throne... much the same way Travance does with Elijah. In fact, I'd even dare say the Duke's claim, should it be true, is stronger.
The Duke and his nobles are willing to fight for their cause... much the same way Travance is.
My point is that right now, until the next piece is in play, there is no difference between Vorllorn, Ravenhurst, and Travance.
- Dennis Brand
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7 years 3 months ago - 7 years 3 months ago #162962
by Cara Easton (Raeelle)
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I concur with Master Brand. We’re all very quick to jump and assume this is a declaration of hostility, yet they have not declared any hostility upon us. They have the same concern over the state of their Kingdom as we do, but perhaps we are all being a bit rash. I do not intend to speak out of turn, but why do we get to presume we are right and they are wrong? How do we know how those on the other side of the rift feel about the status of our government. When was the last time we asked anyone besides ourselves how they feel about this?
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7 years 3 months ago #162966
by Donald MacFhionnlaigh (raidr0933)
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Replied by Donald MacFhionnlaigh (raidr0933) on topic On The Declaration of Rule
Squires Brand and Tartaros:
Some wisdom from a cantankerous war priest:
Kingdoms gain subjects through settlement and coercion. Empires gain subjects through force of arms. There is not an empire in this day and age that I am aware of that does not maintain itself through Subjugation or Oppression of one group or another. If those exist, no law made can be just. I intend no hostility, but the choice of words used cannot be ignored, and the various peoples have a right to be warned that there is a possibility that this could go badly. I have a duty to do so for my kin and my people.
-Father Donald MacFhionnlaigh
Some wisdom from a cantankerous war priest:
Kingdoms gain subjects through settlement and coercion. Empires gain subjects through force of arms. There is not an empire in this day and age that I am aware of that does not maintain itself through Subjugation or Oppression of one group or another. If those exist, no law made can be just. I intend no hostility, but the choice of words used cannot be ignored, and the various peoples have a right to be warned that there is a possibility that this could go badly. I have a duty to do so for my kin and my people.
-Father Donald MacFhionnlaigh
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