Still more changes

I have to agree with the flavor argument above. I think removing the gods name is taking some of the character of the spell away, especially since but for Visigalis, those spells are "unique" to the god.

Rayven wrote: I can't speak for all the RM's who were involved in the decision, but I feel the reason Sacrament had prayers such as Aid removed is because if you take a good look, EVERY domain now has 2 prayers per rank. Sacrament used to have 3 in some ranks.

Thats fine and all, but taking a combat buff away from Cleric is not the way to go about it, in my opinion. I get the change to Consecrate. Why not have an ability like Aid moved to a Tag skill for Clerics too?

If you ask me about the visigalis weapon, it should be an axe of any size. reason: with a well crafted axe you can do many things: cut wood, plane, a single bit axe can be used as a hammer in a pinch, and its a fearsome weapon.

Brother Aldric wrote: Thats fine and all, but taking a combat buff away from Cleric is not the way to go about it, in my opinion. I get the change to Consecrate. Why not have an ability like Aid moved to a Tag skill for Clerics too?

I would actually like this a lot. It could be a self buff that lets you swing for divine and maybe other buffs. Similar to berzerker rage, spirit of the dragon or other similar effects. It would emphasize that while their connection to the gods is more of a physical role it is not of a lesser nature to that of a priest. Something I feel a lot of people think when talking about the tween classes.

Thats fine and all, but taking a combat buff away from Cleric is not the way to go about it, in my opinion

I agree. Sacrment domain, as it is available to all gods (except, currently, Visagalis), is a "utility" domain that helps define the Priest and Cleric professions. "Aid" is a prayer that helps make Clerics who they are. They should retain access to it.

While I understand that other domains have only two prayers per rank, we should not conflate symmetry with balance.

This is a general statement I made in the other thread and I will make it again in this one. Most of you have been doing just fine delivering constructive criticism that is not laced with attitude. Thank you.

Please "Think" before you post... and like posts. Please "Re-read" your posts before hitting send. When you put too much un-checked passion in a post, your words can come across more hurtful then intended and that really is not fair to the people who have been working very hard and have different opinions than you. Please propose suggestions and opinions with a kind and non sarcastic attitude. Thank you.