Zombies are coming!!!!
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17 years 3 days ago #20109
by geezer (geezer)
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Replied by geezer (geezer) on topic Zombies are coming!!!!
In Jamaica, the machette is the king tool. I have cut down large diameter bamboo with them. Where the populace demands a quality tool, industry (this time, Brazilian) responds. One can buy a quality Machette, with no frills, for $900 (12 real dollars).
When the mud subsides, I will try the shotgun experiment. It only takes one .32 piece of OO to kill you if it hits in the head and penetrates. We have not discussed chokes, but to keep things neat, it will be full at 100 feet, modified at 50 and open at 25 and 10 feet. How come everyone let the matter of choke slide? Shocked I am.
When the mud subsides, I will try the shotgun experiment. It only takes one .32 piece of OO to kill you if it hits in the head and penetrates. We have not discussed chokes, but to keep things neat, it will be full at 100 feet, modified at 50 and open at 25 and 10 feet. How come everyone let the matter of choke slide? Shocked I am.
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17 years 3 days ago #20123
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Replied by Bladesworn (Bladesworn) on topic Zombies are coming!!!!
If I remember correctly, all choke does is vary the size of the spread. We're still debating if buckshot is serviceable for zombie killing. If there is enough damage from the shot entering skulls and blowing bits of brain out, then we should move onto choke as which is best for head-level group shots and taking down groups of zombies.
Of course, this is still dependent if shotguns loaded with buckshot rounds can accurately and decisively do the job needed in zombnie killing.
On an unrelated note, I am surprised and awed on how this thread has continued to survive. It will never match the awesomeness of the metal thread, but this is still a wonder to behold.
Of course, this is still dependent if shotguns loaded with buckshot rounds can accurately and decisively do the job needed in zombnie killing.
On an unrelated note, I am surprised and awed on how this thread has continued to survive. It will never match the awesomeness of the metal thread, but this is still a wonder to behold.
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17 years 3 days ago #20125
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There's always the possibility of the shotgun slug rounds, they're more accurate and more lethal than buckshot.
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17 years 3 days ago #20130
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Replied by geezer (geezer) on topic Zombies are coming!!!!
Absolutely true, John, but the purpose of buckshot was to allow for multiple knockdowns per round. Otherwise, the assault rifle...
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17 years 2 days ago #20166
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john is correct slug shells. are excelent. the issue with them is the recoil impact upon ones shoulder or other body part from where the weapon is fired "shooting from the hip" is greatly increased, reducing the amount of shooting one can do. also as fr shotguns, there are diffrent types of buckshot, correlating to the size of the shot in the shell, there are also flare rounds, and chain "bolo" rounds which can sever limbs and torsos, as well as incindiary rounds made of magnesium, phosphorus, sodium, potassium.. and so on and so forth which would do quite well to incinerate a walking cadaver..
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17 years 2 days ago #20170
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Replied by Darkhunter (Darkhunter) on topic Zombies are coming!!!!
.50 cal rifle.
I love this weapon, on simple factor, it causes damage regardless of wether it hits or not. On a living person, a .50cal will rip off a limb or liquify a torso with a direct hit. The bullet can just graze and still do this. It can travel up to 6 inches from the side of someones head and the force and overpressure will still rip a persons ear off. And it will travel through several of them.
as for ammo- the most common round that can be easily found are: 9 mm, 5.56mm, 7.63x39 mm. these are mass produced to the point of stock piles and there are usable is almost any weapons platform that takes those with out the need of specialty ammo.
shotgun ammo...sure, easy to make and reload, but again you say fire power. If you hot load a shotgun, you get 8 +1 rounds. with a extended chamber thats an additional 3 rounds. so 12 rounds total. Compared to my Masada with a 30 round PMAG. Now is your shotgun pump or semi-automatic? now thats a rate of fire issue...as youll have to pump the weapon.
while aiming isnt to much of a concern with a shotgun, you also cant gaurenttee a killing hit. Its more of a spray and pray option your going with. With my assualt rifle, even with a ACO or what ever sight system I have, I can hit targets 3 feet away with out much thought...its a skill that gets pounded into your head in the infantry, you enter a room, you have maybe 3-7 feet to your target, you scan it, ID it as a threat or not, and drop it (since my weapon was already at the ready). Not much aiming invovled at anything close then 10 meters, you can simple look over your sights at your targets and put a round in it.
While as a tool it works great for opening locked doors and such, but wouldnt hurt to have a few "room sweepers" added into you line up just in case you dont have the time to switch to you main.
as for a machatte? you run the risk of get the blade stuck in bone if you don't cleave through. and why why why would you want to be so damn close to use a machette?
I love this weapon, on simple factor, it causes damage regardless of wether it hits or not. On a living person, a .50cal will rip off a limb or liquify a torso with a direct hit. The bullet can just graze and still do this. It can travel up to 6 inches from the side of someones head and the force and overpressure will still rip a persons ear off. And it will travel through several of them.
as for ammo- the most common round that can be easily found are: 9 mm, 5.56mm, 7.63x39 mm. these are mass produced to the point of stock piles and there are usable is almost any weapons platform that takes those with out the need of specialty ammo.
shotgun ammo...sure, easy to make and reload, but again you say fire power. If you hot load a shotgun, you get 8 +1 rounds. with a extended chamber thats an additional 3 rounds. so 12 rounds total. Compared to my Masada with a 30 round PMAG. Now is your shotgun pump or semi-automatic? now thats a rate of fire issue...as youll have to pump the weapon.
while aiming isnt to much of a concern with a shotgun, you also cant gaurenttee a killing hit. Its more of a spray and pray option your going with. With my assualt rifle, even with a ACO or what ever sight system I have, I can hit targets 3 feet away with out much thought...its a skill that gets pounded into your head in the infantry, you enter a room, you have maybe 3-7 feet to your target, you scan it, ID it as a threat or not, and drop it (since my weapon was already at the ready). Not much aiming invovled at anything close then 10 meters, you can simple look over your sights at your targets and put a round in it.
While as a tool it works great for opening locked doors and such, but wouldnt hurt to have a few "room sweepers" added into you line up just in case you dont have the time to switch to you main.
as for a machatte? you run the risk of get the blade stuck in bone if you don't cleave through. and why why why would you want to be so damn close to use a machette?
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