Long sword VS Katana

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16 years 1 month ago #37942 by Otagiri Ryu Ellamne (Otagiri Ryu Ellamne)

Yeah, whenever Hollywood feeds us another katana on katana battle where the two combatants are cutting and parrying constantly, edge on edge, one thought crosses my mind.: "damn, they are destroying those weapons", because katanas were so sharp that edge on edge contact would notch the blade horribly.

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Just a quick side about "hollywood" and stage-combat. As disturbing as it is they feel that edge-on-edge is the ... *cringes* ''PROPER'' way to block. Whoever taught them this should be killed with fire! I am currently in the process of practicing for a movie called "The Otherworld" where I am a...you guessed it...fighter. And even during the sword training sessions they are teaching the combatants to block with the edge of their blade. Hell I look over towards my lady and she's just looking at mewide-eyed like are you f'ing seriouse? So that is not just "katanas in hollywood" that's every sword. We were using a German LongSword to be exact.

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16 years 1 month ago #37957 by Secarius (Secarius)
i would aboloutly yes argue that japanese style armor allows for more dexterity and agility if one were to ignore the fact that it protected less of the body however moving past that. you are correct one would not block another sword with the edge of the blade of a katana.. it would RUIN the blade if not fracture it into more than one piece. a european sword one COULD block with the edge of the blade because of the metal being softer yet denser it could absorb the impact better and IF damaged was easier to repair/reforge which is disallowed by the very technique by which katanas are made. moreover. a katana could not get through plate with a slashing attack. nore could it get through chain. also somethnig ppl seem to have forgotten about.. a knight would have a shield.. effectively giving him a 2nd weapon against the samurai.. plus an excelent defense.. it is HIGHLY probable that the katanas edge would fracture against the shield and if the katana did bite into the shield the knight would be able to either disarm the samurai by moving the shield and if not disarming the samurai the katana blade would snap from the torsion.

also if the knight blocked the katana with his sword.. the katanas blade would be damaged if not destroyed from the impact with the broad sword.

of the videos shown it seemed that the knight sword was harder and slowed to draw.. maybe.. maybe not. and harder/slower to swing.. irrelivant because of the techniques used with each weapon.

in a duel.. id put my money on the knight

yes the videos are silly.. very silly

the sca video... omgroflmao rediculous.
why is the sca vid rediculous.. because they have to worry about safety.. knights and samurai.. not so much.

for anyone who quoted the show deadliest warrior.. and the samurai V viking episode... SHENANIGANS is all i have to say SHENANIGANS and humbug

also by the very methodology of which a knights sword would be used makes it capable and easily able to pierce and rend the armor of a samurai.. where as a samurai could not easily pierce the armor of a knight if at all

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16 years 4 weeks ago #37980 by geezer (geezer)
Screw the swords though.  The knight would never have the opportunity to close, which kind of makes the whole concept irrelevant, unless the Samurai was willing to engage in "honor" combat.  Earlier someone posted it is the warrior holding the sword that will determine victory.  Give Mushashi either and I predict he would emerge victorious.

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16 years 4 weeks ago #37983 by Tiriel (Tiriel)
Well we DID say it was a fight and not a footrace  ;)

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16 years 4 weeks ago #37989 by geezer (geezer)
You misunderstood, Terry.  As the primary battlefield weapon of the Samurai was the bow, the knight would look like a pincushion long before he reached the man holding it.

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16 years 4 weeks ago #37991 by Radu Dragovic (Radu Dragovic)
What period Knight are we talking?

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