Religion in Larp
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9 years 9 months ago #134545
by Mantel (sigma-j)
Mantel Warrane (AWz., QMA; AM, WSS)
Grand Librarian Emeritus, Darkwood Academy of the Metaphysical Arts
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Replied by Mantel (sigma-j) on topic Religion in Larp
I also second Kat's assertion, and present myself as testament. I felt comfortable bringing two agnostic characters into the game, and was never uncomfortable with that choice at any point in my stay.
Honestly, I feel that religious characters SHOULD put a little bit more pressure in, sometimes, though, because I came into the game as Guo Liang fully expecting having to defend his lack of faith, and was never even approached about it. Which I suppose is nice, but I'd hoped it to have at least served as a talking point. One of the myriad of reasons I tabled Liang for now.
That pressure should be limited to character conversation, rather than to actual ramifications, as Kat warns against, however.
Honestly, I feel that religious characters SHOULD put a little bit more pressure in, sometimes, though, because I came into the game as Guo Liang fully expecting having to defend his lack of faith, and was never even approached about it. Which I suppose is nice, but I'd hoped it to have at least served as a talking point. One of the myriad of reasons I tabled Liang for now.
That pressure should be limited to character conversation, rather than to actual ramifications, as Kat warns against, however.
Mantel Warrane (AWz., QMA; AM, WSS)
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Warden of the Keep, Allied Territory of Corvancia
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"How can I be substantial if I do not cast a shadow? I must have a dark side also if I am to be whole." - C.G. Jung
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9 years 9 months ago #134553
by DennisS (DRSNova)
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Replied by DennisS (DRSNova) on topic Religion in Larp
What - no baptisms at swordpoint? 
I guess we're just very used to the concept of live and let live in religious matters that pushing someone to take on (or relinquish) a faith is so unthinkable to some that they have a problem with acting out sth. like this in-game, seeing it instinctively as a form of gameplay that will make people uncomfortable. Especially since it seems the typical LARPing crowd tends to not be too mainstream about their religious views.
Looking at the PvP thread - this might equally be something that could be communicated out-of-game first, so those who want this can be pestered by clerics as much as they want.
(In my case - I'd say "bring it on", but I'll probably be very obviously a follower of Gaia)
I guess we're just very used to the concept of live and let live in religious matters that pushing someone to take on (or relinquish) a faith is so unthinkable to some that they have a problem with acting out sth. like this in-game, seeing it instinctively as a form of gameplay that will make people uncomfortable. Especially since it seems the typical LARPing crowd tends to not be too mainstream about their religious views.
Looking at the PvP thread - this might equally be something that could be communicated out-of-game first, so those who want this can be pestered by clerics as much as they want.
(In my case - I'd say "bring it on", but I'll probably be very obviously a follower of Gaia)
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9 years 9 months ago #134554
by Mantel (sigma-j)
Mantel Warrane (AWz., QMA; AM, WSS)
Grand Librarian Emeritus, Darkwood Academy of the Metaphysical Arts
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Warden of the Keep, Allied Territory of Corvancia
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(OOG Jean M, they/them)
"How can I be substantial if I do not cast a shadow? I must have a dark side also if I am to be whole." - C.G. Jung
Replied by Mantel (sigma-j) on topic Religion in Larp
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure there are actual IG repercussions for baptizing someone against their will, and repercussions for not being truthful in one's alleged wish to be baptized.
Beats me what those are though, so FOIG on those.
That, to me, is a sort of keystone to Religious RP.
Beats me what those are though, so FOIG on those.
That, to me, is a sort of keystone to Religious RP.
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9 years 9 months ago #134555
by Nalick (NalickDeMarche)
There definitely is.
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Lux wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure there are actual IG repercussions for baptizing someone against their will, and repercussions for not being truthful in one's alleged wish to be baptized.
There definitely is.
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9 years 9 months ago #134556
by DennisS (DRSNova)
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Replied by DennisS (DRSNova) on topic Religion in Larp
I was kidding, of course. I already read up on the consequences for things like that (being untruthful would be 100 divine damage, if i recall correctly) - it's in the core rules.
I'm not questioning at all why you would choose to handle it the way it is handled at KR, I'm just saying I had some fun playing around with this in the past. One of my traders once got babtized just because he wanted to get in on the production and sale of religious relics - which worked. Later, he almost died from a wound, and I let him have a vision of a saint in his fever dreams, and I made him became a devout follower, continuously giving plenty of coin to the church.
Also, there were these norse guys getting babtized to scam the clergy out of free babtizing shirts...some of them more than once. It was hilarious, the priest's player didn't realize it at all.
The impossibility of getting babtized under false pretenses?That, to me, is a sort of keystone to Religious RP.
I'm not questioning at all why you would choose to handle it the way it is handled at KR, I'm just saying I had some fun playing around with this in the past. One of my traders once got babtized just because he wanted to get in on the production and sale of religious relics - which worked. Later, he almost died from a wound, and I let him have a vision of a saint in his fever dreams, and I made him became a devout follower, continuously giving plenty of coin to the church.
Also, there were these norse guys getting babtized to scam the clergy out of free babtizing shirts...some of them more than once. It was hilarious, the priest's player didn't realize it at all.
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9 years 9 months ago #134557
by Mantel (sigma-j)
Mantel Warrane (AWz., QMA; AM, WSS)
Grand Librarian Emeritus, Darkwood Academy of the Metaphysical Arts
Professor Emeritus of Weave Studies, Darkwood Academy
Warden of the Keep, Allied Territory of Corvancia
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(OOG Jean M, they/them)
"How can I be substantial if I do not cast a shadow? I must have a dark side also if I am to be whole." - C.G. Jung
Replied by Mantel (sigma-j) on topic Religion in Larp
Allow me to clarify, I curtailed my thought early (It's rather late here, and I shouldn't be up.) I meant religious RP in our context.
Though those are hilarious. Even the Trader could conceivably get baptized in that fashion, though, I think, at least by that short description. You don't need to necessarily be a Saint to be baptized, all you need is a legitimate interest and devotion to the church. If that devotion is the will to peddle holy symbols, than so be it!
Now if a Galmachian disguised themself as a Gaian follower hoping to be baptized to Servant status... THEN is when Gaia (And/or Galmachis, for that matter) will strike them down for their infidelity.
Though those are hilarious. Even the Trader could conceivably get baptized in that fashion, though, I think, at least by that short description. You don't need to necessarily be a Saint to be baptized, all you need is a legitimate interest and devotion to the church. If that devotion is the will to peddle holy symbols, than so be it!
Now if a Galmachian disguised themself as a Gaian follower hoping to be baptized to Servant status... THEN is when Gaia (And/or Galmachis, for that matter) will strike them down for their infidelity.
Mantel Warrane (AWz., QMA; AM, WSS)
Grand Librarian Emeritus, Darkwood Academy of the Metaphysical Arts
Professor Emeritus of Weave Studies, Darkwood Academy
Warden of the Keep, Allied Territory of Corvancia
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(OOG Jean M, they/them)
"How can I be substantial if I do not cast a shadow? I must have a dark side also if I am to be whole." - C.G. Jung
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