On the matter of the library
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14 years 7 months ago #57802
by Woolsey Bysmor (Osred)
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Replied by Woolsey Bysmor (Osred) on topic On the matter of the library
For informational purposes, a Loremaster is title granted to a being who is so skilled at researching that they can expertly identify any item, it's history, how it operates, and other relevent facts. It is considered by some to be the apex of scholarly endevours.
I do ask that people realize the effort and funding that Father Edwin and Amizar put into the various books that are contained in the library, and the graciousness of the Count in making certain that those books will not be stolen from the library. We are fortunate to have such a resource. I was unawere that there was a password on the library, if there is, I think it would be best if removed, to allow everyone to enjoy this library.
Father Brax, as a Chroniclerite I must commend you on your defense of free libraries. I know your kind is despise magic, and the type of magic used in the library will certainly bar you from ever being able to use it, and your upbringing makes the ability to achieve higher scholarly pursuits impossible; however, you still respect and follow the expansion of the Count's Library with eager anticipation. It is inspiring.
I do ask that people realize the effort and funding that Father Edwin and Amizar put into the various books that are contained in the library, and the graciousness of the Count in making certain that those books will not be stolen from the library. We are fortunate to have such a resource. I was unawere that there was a password on the library, if there is, I think it would be best if removed, to allow everyone to enjoy this library.
Father Brax, as a Chroniclerite I must commend you on your defense of free libraries. I know your kind is despise magic, and the type of magic used in the library will certainly bar you from ever being able to use it, and your upbringing makes the ability to achieve higher scholarly pursuits impossible; however, you still respect and follow the expansion of the Count's Library with eager anticipation. It is inspiring.
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14 years 7 months ago #57806
by Secarius (Secarius)
ALex S.
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Replied by Secarius (Secarius) on topic On the matter of the library
Father Osred,
I thank you for your commendation. It is appreciated. Yes to a certain extent I despise magic and when I first came to trance I would say I even loathed it. However after my time here I have learned to be tolerant of it. And yes I would believe that the magics used in the library would most likely prevent me from ever using it. And yes I am incapable of pursuing higher scholarly endeavors. All that being said I as a leader of my people fully comprehend and appreciate the value of free libraries. Information and knowledge is power as the old adage goes. And so long as information is available to any who seek it the people need not fear tyranny, and if nothing else My people believe in personal freedom (and responsibility) as a defense against tyrants. That being so YES I respect the Count's library and encourage it's development and expansion. I have seen it's use and the scholars ability to research subject be of benefit to the defense of the town by discovering fatal weaknesses in a given enemy. Or even the identity of a given enemy. As a leader of My people and a Warrior I know full well the usefulness of those who can discover such facets of knowledge about my opponents and appreciate them. I encourage the expansion of the library to such a degree that I have offered the Count my skill as a craftsman to aid in the construction of the new library building.
Thank you Father Osred. I am filled with pride that you find myself inspiring.
I thank you for your commendation. It is appreciated. Yes to a certain extent I despise magic and when I first came to trance I would say I even loathed it. However after my time here I have learned to be tolerant of it. And yes I would believe that the magics used in the library would most likely prevent me from ever using it. And yes I am incapable of pursuing higher scholarly endeavors. All that being said I as a leader of my people fully comprehend and appreciate the value of free libraries. Information and knowledge is power as the old adage goes. And so long as information is available to any who seek it the people need not fear tyranny, and if nothing else My people believe in personal freedom (and responsibility) as a defense against tyrants. That being so YES I respect the Count's library and encourage it's development and expansion. I have seen it's use and the scholars ability to research subject be of benefit to the defense of the town by discovering fatal weaknesses in a given enemy. Or even the identity of a given enemy. As a leader of My people and a Warrior I know full well the usefulness of those who can discover such facets of knowledge about my opponents and appreciate them. I encourage the expansion of the library to such a degree that I have offered the Count my skill as a craftsman to aid in the construction of the new library building.
Thank you Father Osred. I am filled with pride that you find myself inspiring.
ALex S.
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14 years 7 months ago #57809
by Matthias Thane (Kspigel)
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Replied by Matthias Thane (Kspigel) on topic On the matter of the library
This has become pointless and a re-hashing of the same concepts over and over again.
Perhaps if a second library doesn't work out the first will accept those tomes I've acquired in my attempt asa donation and a deal might be struck giving academy students password access.
Perhaps not.
Either way an official center of learning is necessary in Travance, capable of accepting Journeymen.
Perhaps if a second library doesn't work out the first will accept those tomes I've acquired in my attempt asa donation and a deal might be struck giving academy students password access.
Perhaps not.
Either way an official center of learning is necessary in Travance, capable of accepting Journeymen.
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14 years 7 months ago #57814
by Belegchand (mcalo)
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Replied by Belegchand (mcalo) on topic On the matter of the library
Father Haroldson:
Would you disagree that Scholars are known more for their intellect than their physique? Because a Scholar who is known for his physique would be quite an interesting specimen.
And, as Father Osred pointed out, my title has been earned by my abilities to identify items expertly. It is a title that many choose to ignore in fear of their brains being taken from them, or their bodies turned into ash and placed in an urn. I, however, am proud of this accomplishment, and thus refuse to hide who I truly am. I hide behind no masks.
As to the concept of multiple libraries, as a Chroniclerite, I feel that Knowledge should be spread to all. If multiple libraries are formed, both with free admission, I do not see a problem. I, for one, have been making codices that will not be added to the current library, but instead stored in the Mage's Guild as it seemed more appropriate to place Arcane Codices in a place where all Guildmembers can easily have access to them, especially since any who can create Scrolls or Ballads are, by their very study of it, a member of the Guild.
Professor Suliman,
Your dream is possible. If there is anything I have learned since being in Travance, it is that anything is possible.
In the Name of the Weave,
Would you disagree that Scholars are known more for their intellect than their physique? Because a Scholar who is known for his physique would be quite an interesting specimen.
And, as Father Osred pointed out, my title has been earned by my abilities to identify items expertly. It is a title that many choose to ignore in fear of their brains being taken from them, or their bodies turned into ash and placed in an urn. I, however, am proud of this accomplishment, and thus refuse to hide who I truly am. I hide behind no masks.
As to the concept of multiple libraries, as a Chroniclerite, I feel that Knowledge should be spread to all. If multiple libraries are formed, both with free admission, I do not see a problem. I, for one, have been making codices that will not be added to the current library, but instead stored in the Mage's Guild as it seemed more appropriate to place Arcane Codices in a place where all Guildmembers can easily have access to them, especially since any who can create Scrolls or Ballads are, by their very study of it, a member of the Guild.
Professor Suliman,
Your dream is possible. If there is anything I have learned since being in Travance, it is that anything is possible.
In the Name of the Weave,
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14 years 7 months ago #57816
by geezer (geezer)
Edwin Haroldson
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Replied by geezer (geezer) on topic On the matter of the library
By placing codices in the Mages' Guild, you are denying access to many. I abhor restrictions on knowledge based on one's profession. I will have to ruminate on this unpleasant development.
Edwin Haroldson
Loremaster
Master of the Mages' Guild
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14 years 7 months ago #57818
by Belegchand (mcalo)
OOG: Matt Calo - Marshal
Replied by Belegchand (mcalo) on topic On the matter of the library
Father Haroldson:
How are placing Arcane Codices, which by their very nature cannot be used by those outside of Mage's Guild jurisdiction, within the Guild denying the access any more than placing them in the Baronial Libary? It is not a Manuscript by which anyone can learn from, but a tool for Arcane and Bardic scholars to help craft Scrolls and Ballads. Additionally, I spend most of my time in the Guild Hall anyway, and as I do intend on utilizing these codices myself, I would like to easily have access to them. There is no restriction to knowledge present any more than there is for codices normally, which is that only Scholars can properly utilize the texts in the first place!
And, I know the retort that someone will provide, that my kinsmen can also craft Scrolls, and I can ensure you, if ever a fellow Quinyarian asks to use my codices, I would be more than happy to allow them to.
In the Name of the Weave,
How are placing Arcane Codices, which by their very nature cannot be used by those outside of Mage's Guild jurisdiction, within the Guild denying the access any more than placing them in the Baronial Libary? It is not a Manuscript by which anyone can learn from, but a tool for Arcane and Bardic scholars to help craft Scrolls and Ballads. Additionally, I spend most of my time in the Guild Hall anyway, and as I do intend on utilizing these codices myself, I would like to easily have access to them. There is no restriction to knowledge present any more than there is for codices normally, which is that only Scholars can properly utilize the texts in the first place!
And, I know the retort that someone will provide, that my kinsmen can also craft Scrolls, and I can ensure you, if ever a fellow Quinyarian asks to use my codices, I would be more than happy to allow them to.
In the Name of the Weave,
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