Being "Common"
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11 years 8 months ago #100642
by Aleister (Aleister)
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Replied by Aleister (Aleister) on topic Being "Common"
I am going to request that this remain open discussion. There has been little in the way of name calling and violent words. I feel the topic is enlightening and should not be stifled.
Please continue.
Please continue.
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11 years 8 months ago - 11 years 8 months ago #100643
by Ilana Darkwood (Ilana_Darkwood)
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Replied by Ilana Darkwood (Ilana_Darkwood) on topic Being "Common"
[strike]Not to continue as the Squire has requested,[/strike]
I have spoken with Merikh and we're in agreement. If you cannot find him, you can come to me for assistance. I will also help him find the necessary teachers if he does not know who to locate. This will be a joint effort between the two of us.
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But, I am done writing as Merikh and I would be somewhat repetitive and as I understand Dominic's demeanor, do not wish to press on it.
Though, I would add I was not trying to show only the positive side to progress, I was simply noting death was necessary and was trying to move away from 'progress' and back to why Commoners are valued but do not need to be considered 'Common'. But, I did not go into much more detail so I understand where the misinterpretation came from, sorry for that.
However, I would like to thank those that have contributed, it is rare I am interested in writing publicly in any manner.
-Ilana
I have spoken with Merikh and we're in agreement. If you cannot find him, you can come to me for assistance. I will also help him find the necessary teachers if he does not know who to locate. This will be a joint effort between the two of us.
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But, I am done writing as Merikh and I would be somewhat repetitive and as I understand Dominic's demeanor, do not wish to press on it.
Though, I would add I was not trying to show only the positive side to progress, I was simply noting death was necessary and was trying to move away from 'progress' and back to why Commoners are valued but do not need to be considered 'Common'. But, I did not go into much more detail so I understand where the misinterpretation came from, sorry for that.
However, I would like to thank those that have contributed, it is rare I am interested in writing publicly in any manner.
-Ilana
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Last edit: 11 years 8 months ago by Ilana Darkwood (Ilana_Darkwood).
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11 years 8 months ago #100644
by Chesta (Kevin)
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Replied by Chesta (Kevin) on topic Being "Common"
You are right Oren. Until my last message involving this argument their had been no emotion in my words. However when all is said and done I can still respect Merikhs opinion because I can tell it is a well thought out and intelligent opinion. In the end all this boils down to is our opposing opinions on a certain use of a word. So even if we disagree I can honestly say that I can respect Merikh and I hope that I get the same respect from him on the subject.
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11 years 8 months ago #100647
by Caelvan (Caelvan)
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Replied by Caelvan (Caelvan) on topic Being "Common"
Dominic,
Are you referring to the rangers and mages in Travance? These things maybe common here, however think of the other side of the Rift. In Kormyre, are there not more common people than uncommon? Take our home. How many glassblowers, scribes, carpenters have the potential to be something more? You must think of the world as a whole. Not just this small piece of it.
Your definition of uncommon is fine, however does this mean that your lord wishes to gain power? Do YOU wish to gain power? Or do you both seek knowledge? There will be the few who use this knowledge to gain power, but why stop knowledge because of the few?
I never said psions, healers, and dragoons were uncommon. I actually said the opposite. They are common unless they accept and learn more of their bloodline. As much as we don’t want to call them special, they are. They are born with the potential to learn greater in their body than others. However the cost of this is that they have no real excuse for not becoming uncommon since being common for them means rejecting their birthright and gifts.
Don’t you go saying you were forced to have an uncommon life and didn’t have any other choice. You ALWAYS had a choice. The people who plague your nightmares, you could have stopped, you could have said “Oh maybe I should stop this.” You could have left at anytime, in fact, if that is the case I encourage you to go back home. Find a woman, get married, have a few kids and be common. That is your choice. YOU choose to stay here. YOU choose to be uncommon and the people who haunt your nightmares are on you. You could have changed at anytime, as is shown by your vow, but you CHOSE not to.
The age of the unlearned is over. The age of the common is over. I encourage once again anyone who wishes to learn to please seek Ilana or I out and learn. Take part in this new age.
Take part in the Age of Enlightenment.
Thank you,
Merikh
Priest of Galmachis, Teacher, Friend
Are you referring to the rangers and mages in Travance? These things maybe common here, however think of the other side of the Rift. In Kormyre, are there not more common people than uncommon? Take our home. How many glassblowers, scribes, carpenters have the potential to be something more? You must think of the world as a whole. Not just this small piece of it.
Your definition of uncommon is fine, however does this mean that your lord wishes to gain power? Do YOU wish to gain power? Or do you both seek knowledge? There will be the few who use this knowledge to gain power, but why stop knowledge because of the few?
I never said psions, healers, and dragoons were uncommon. I actually said the opposite. They are common unless they accept and learn more of their bloodline. As much as we don’t want to call them special, they are. They are born with the potential to learn greater in their body than others. However the cost of this is that they have no real excuse for not becoming uncommon since being common for them means rejecting their birthright and gifts.
Don’t you go saying you were forced to have an uncommon life and didn’t have any other choice. You ALWAYS had a choice. The people who plague your nightmares, you could have stopped, you could have said “Oh maybe I should stop this.” You could have left at anytime, in fact, if that is the case I encourage you to go back home. Find a woman, get married, have a few kids and be common. That is your choice. YOU choose to stay here. YOU choose to be uncommon and the people who haunt your nightmares are on you. You could have changed at anytime, as is shown by your vow, but you CHOSE not to.
The age of the unlearned is over. The age of the common is over. I encourage once again anyone who wishes to learn to please seek Ilana or I out and learn. Take part in this new age.
Take part in the Age of Enlightenment.
Thank you,
Merikh
Priest of Galmachis, Teacher, Friend
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11 years 8 months ago #100652
by Narcis (ChrisR)
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Replied by Narcis (ChrisR) on topic Being "Common"
-an article from a previous edition of the chronicle is tacked on-
Change and Chaos.
I would like to preface this with chaos is something that means something different to everyone. If you ask a fellow Chaos Warrior what chaos is they may not have the exact same answer as I do. This is the nature of Chaos.
With Arawyn seemingly thrown into chaos many neglect to see what this state of the world can bring for the future. Chaos is integral for change to happen. For most of you, you only see chaos in it’s destructive form. You see it as what killed so many of Arawyn. You see it as something that cannot be controlled and sometimes that is correct, sometimes, nothing can stop chaos. In order to have the order that so many of you desire, you need chaos and the disorder it causes. However, there are aspects of chaos that many don’t realize or acknowledge because they are afraid to.
Chaos, allows for the world to progress, it creates a setting in which change can occur. A society that has become complacent and settles for total order cannot make positive(or negative) strides forward. We have seen what happens when people become sick of the complacency and embrace chaos to try and create a change. For example, those townspeople last summer rebelled because they felt they were not being treated fairly. Chaos reminds us that we have free will and can help create the future we want to see.
Chaos is unique in that it is not only a natural force that occurs all around us, but it is also a tool. It is something that happens whether we like it or not and it is something that many people use or misuse to create the outcome that they want to see. It does not only destroy life but also allows for those who would not normally survive to thrive. It not only helps new leaders usurp the old but also reminds current leaders that their complacency or abuse of power will inevitably lead to a revolution of the people who want change.
So what I ask of each of you is to realize that though this world has almost ended, it did not. With our survival has come a time of change. A time in which some will feel uncomfortable because their precious sense of order has seemingly been eliminated. Right now is when people like you and I are able to affect how this new age develops and who it will serve, if it will serve anyone. Until once again in the future, chaos up heaves everything for new change to occur.
If you wish to discuss this further, whether you agree or not, you may reach me by private missive or find me when I am in town.
-end of article, the following is scribbled on the bottom-
I thought I would save some paper and reuse my article.
-ava
Change and Chaos.
I would like to preface this with chaos is something that means something different to everyone. If you ask a fellow Chaos Warrior what chaos is they may not have the exact same answer as I do. This is the nature of Chaos.
With Arawyn seemingly thrown into chaos many neglect to see what this state of the world can bring for the future. Chaos is integral for change to happen. For most of you, you only see chaos in it’s destructive form. You see it as what killed so many of Arawyn. You see it as something that cannot be controlled and sometimes that is correct, sometimes, nothing can stop chaos. In order to have the order that so many of you desire, you need chaos and the disorder it causes. However, there are aspects of chaos that many don’t realize or acknowledge because they are afraid to.
Chaos, allows for the world to progress, it creates a setting in which change can occur. A society that has become complacent and settles for total order cannot make positive(or negative) strides forward. We have seen what happens when people become sick of the complacency and embrace chaos to try and create a change. For example, those townspeople last summer rebelled because they felt they were not being treated fairly. Chaos reminds us that we have free will and can help create the future we want to see.
Chaos is unique in that it is not only a natural force that occurs all around us, but it is also a tool. It is something that happens whether we like it or not and it is something that many people use or misuse to create the outcome that they want to see. It does not only destroy life but also allows for those who would not normally survive to thrive. It not only helps new leaders usurp the old but also reminds current leaders that their complacency or abuse of power will inevitably lead to a revolution of the people who want change.
So what I ask of each of you is to realize that though this world has almost ended, it did not. With our survival has come a time of change. A time in which some will feel uncomfortable because their precious sense of order has seemingly been eliminated. Right now is when people like you and I are able to affect how this new age develops and who it will serve, if it will serve anyone. Until once again in the future, chaos up heaves everything for new change to occur.
If you wish to discuss this further, whether you agree or not, you may reach me by private missive or find me when I am in town.
-end of article, the following is scribbled on the bottom-
I thought I would save some paper and reuse my article.
-ava
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11 years 8 months ago #100655
by Chesta (Kevin)
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Replied by Chesta (Kevin) on topic Being "Common"
Merikh, change have respect to had.
The only reason I am here today is because I was forced to leave my village to keep everyone I knew and loved from being brutally murdered. AND THEN I get banished from my village for false crimes, then the village burns and everyone dies because of Xualla and his demons. SO DON'T YOU DARE, act like you know what my life has been and whether or not I had a choice! I did all I could, SACRIFICED WHO I WAS in order to keep everyone I loved alive, AND THEY STILL DIED! So never say you know my choices because you don't!
The only reason I am here today is because I was forced to leave my village to keep everyone I knew and loved from being brutally murdered. AND THEN I get banished from my village for false crimes, then the village burns and everyone dies because of Xualla and his demons. SO DON'T YOU DARE, act like you know what my life has been and whether or not I had a choice! I did all I could, SACRIFICED WHO I WAS in order to keep everyone I loved alive, AND THEY STILL DIED! So never say you know my choices because you don't!
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