The Pirate Accords of 1217

Aaah finally, the coward reveals his true colors.

I be called Fortune Demeanor, me Lord be called LORD Tartaros.
Ye nay control who challenges ye to honor combat nor why. I challenged ye honestly and openly fer offenses to me lord and me land, ye refused.

Now Travance knows ye be a coward.

I'm a pirate Misdemeanor. Coward is half in the job description. I don't much like bullies and won't bother with your childish challenge. Now let the adults talk.

Buccaneer Cade,
I'm just going to assume that you have the best intentions when it comes to these accords. But I'd just like to ask you a question..
You do understand that these accords can't be legally canon until they'be been accepted by the nobility of Travance, yes?
And even still, let's say that Drega'mire accepts these accords (I'm going to doubt it, but that is just an example) they would only be legally canon in the land of Drega'mire. Everyone else does not have to follow with them unless they want to, or unless they're accepted by the other lands, or by the baron, or even the Count.

Regardless, you made these accords as a guideline to be followed by, quite possibly, a group of organized "pirates" (Or a guild). As wonderful as that is, couldn't you have just got together the people whom would follow these accords and gone over it with them in private, rather than posting them on a public forum for everyone to see?

I mean, the rogues here are probably organized, and have their own set of regulations amongst themselves, but you don't see them posting here in the public.

I'm not saying that you, or these accords are stupid or anything. But the way you're trying to break them in was pretty dumb. You could have easily avoided all of this.

But then again, things could have changed. I've been dead for a year, so who knows.

Hopefully things will get straightened out. Also, I think I owe Argyle 40 gold now. But that's neither here nor there.

-Leon

Justé wrote: Buccaneer Cade,
I'm just going to assume that you have the best intentions when it comes to these accords. But I'd just like to ask you a question..
You do understand that these accords can't be legally canon until they'be been accepted by the nobility of Travance, yes?
And even still, let's say that Drega'mire accepts these accords (I'm going to doubt it, but that is just an example) they would only be legally canon in the land of Drega'mire. Everyone else does not have to follow with them unless they want to, or unless they're accepted by the other lands, or by the baron, or even the Count.

Regardless, you made these accords as a guideline to be followed by, quite possibly, a group of organized "pirates" (Or a guild). As wonderful as that is, couldn't you have just got together the people whom would follow these accords and gone over it with them in private, rather than posting them on a public forum for everyone to see?

I mean, the rogues here are probably organized, and have their own set of regulations amongst themselves, but you don't see them posting here in the public.

I'm not saying that you, or these accords are stupid or anything. But the way you're trying to break them in was pretty dumb. You could have easily avoided all of this.

But then again, things could have changed. I've been dead for a year, so who knows.

Hopefully things will get straightened out. Also, I think I owe Argyle 40 gold now. But that's neither here nor there.

-Leon

Argyle better buy me a drink. Leon you raise a couple valid points and I do appreciate your post here. Why post publicly? This is pretty much the response I wanted. I wanted people talking about the Accords. I wanted people to weigh in on them. Could I have gotten Caldur to weigh in if I had kept it private and only amongst sailors? Unlikely. Or Primus Aldric? I doubt it. This was the quickest and easiest way to disseminate these Accords. I will very likely be taking into account many peoples concerns and going over the Accords and editing them. I appreciate everyone who has raised valid concerns over them and has given constructive feedback.

Subtle maneuvers have a place and I'm better at making them then most people think. However trying to start a new guild from scratch was not the time for subtlety. And when the powers at be are uninterested or too busy to talk to you sometimes you do something crazy like change every word from Privateer to Pirate and then see what happens. That gets people talking.

Cade,
I see a lot of "One step forward, two steps back" here. But that's just an opinion. You do what you think is best, and I'm sure you were aware of whatever consequences that follow before you posted these. I, personally, will not be following your accords, Cade. I, would be upset to see you tarnished for having good intentions. But I also wouldn't try to stop the headsman's axe, should it swing to your neck. You are, as you said, a pirate. And laws are laws.

Best of luck Buccaneer,
Leon

That is fair Leon. I will say a lot of talk has come from this behind closed doors. Turns out cooler heads preferred not to engage in the shipwreck that has become this thread. I see your point that it may all be just be two steps back and one forward. This could have all proved to be unproductive. However I am hopeful that something can come from these Accords. I am hopeful that those who know me, know my character, and what I stand for will see what these Accords could be for Travance. Or maybe I'll be hung! Sure is exciting.