Concerning the Proposed Deal with the Abyssal Lords of Fire & Ice

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8 years 2 months ago #151440 by Angeliana (Angeliana)
Forgive but never forget. We learn from our past. We show compassion freely but some are willing to abuse it if we are not wise about how. Those willing to destroy our peace will take advantage of our kindness if we are naive. Seek to parlay doesn't mean accept terms which are detrimental to you, seek redemption doesn't mean be tricked into eventual destruction by malicious intent. It's a very fine line to thread and it is a difficult path to walk. Lead your heart with your mind.

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8 years 2 months ago - 8 years 2 months ago #151443 by JTinney (Swordsaint)
Kaiva,

At some point when this is all over and a chance to do this arrives, I would like to take you on a journey.

A journey... From here in Travance to Loez and Glangsdale in Kormyre. After that, I would like to bring you to the Highlands where I am from. In all these locations, I would like to show you the "kindness" of these creatures.

I should also ask you speak with all those who dealt with "Mother" last year at this time or request Lord Aleister to speak upon his interactions with Jailor (and the very less than benign nature of actions against his personage from that one). I am certain you will get a pointed, if biased, description of how creatures such as these act.

A Devil will give you his or her word and do their best to keep it to the letter. Its a point of honor upon their black souls. A Demon, if it deems you humorous enough to parlay with or if it really wants something will cut a deal- but as others have stated, it will attempt to make said deal as one-sided as possible or find any number of means to snag an advantage over you for itself... and or its master.

I understand you are young... and I understand that Andorran wishes compassion be shown to all enemies. HOWEVER, you will never get such in return willingly form these beings. Even your own faith's High Priestess, as strong in Andorra's love and light as she is, cannot do so because she too has experienced the predation of daemonkind upon herself and those under her care.

I appreciate your thinking and feelings on this matter but I am certain you are ill-informed and those thoughts misguided where these creatures are concerned.

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8 years 2 months ago #151530 by geezer (geezer)
Mantel - you are incorrect. Demons are, indeed, inherently evil. Please disabuse yourself of your belief they are not so.

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8 years 2 months ago #151532 by Kaiva (Kaiva Malakai)
Haroldson I mean this in the kindest way possible; absolutely no-one is inheritanly evil! We are breed by our society, where we live and who we come from. A baby is born and thus it is breed in ideals for it to follow. We aren't inheritanly evil and niether is beings. Just because you are born of chaos or have lived doesn't mean you should be casted away as an evil and unredeemable person.

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8 years 2 months ago #151533 by Aleister (Aleister)
Edwin,
Mantel is actually correct. Demons are not inherently Evil. While many turn to Dark powers over those of Light, they are not inherently of those powers. Devils are inherently Evil, because of their nature. Demons are inherently destructive to the material realm, though.

But you and I can talk semantics and supernatural power another time.

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8 years 2 months ago #151537 by Mantel (sigma-j)
Master Haroldson,

I would most respectfully ask the same of you. I did, in fact, mention that it is a commonly held fallacious belief among laypeople and the educated class alike, certainly one even you have ascribed to. His Lordship is correct in his elaboration.

This is, of course, not to say that Demons are incapable of being Evil, merely that they aren't so due to their essential abyssal nature.

--Mantel Warrane

P.S. Kaiva, I must clarify that there are, in fact, beings that are metaphysically bound to the aspect of Darkness, and thereby aligned to the Evil beneath it. Devils are the most common example, but surely there are further examples out there in Bestiaries in the many libraries across Arawyn I have yet to step foot in.

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