Trickster Seems Evil
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6 years 5 months ago #167341
by O. Nesterin (kuemanner)
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I mean, iagree with you somewhat in your statement, Ninnyhammer, about "But if a "being of power" terrorizes man, and they are within our grasp, we are compulsed by our duty to each other to try. Or at least be more judicious with who we take counsel from." But all beings make mistakes, a lot of people here are condemning the trickster for not acting soon enough. Yes, I agree he did not, but if we condemned beings whose very nature is the power people want to strip, you would likely be condemning them to death.
The trickster tried to intervene, but could not stop the ritual. The trickster has tasked the person responsible with a geass. The trickster is working to rectify the mistake that occurred and everyone just wants them
made lame or even dead by taking away the very fiber of its existence. That, is not right.
The trickster tried to intervene, but could not stop the ritual. The trickster has tasked the person responsible with a geass. The trickster is working to rectify the mistake that occurred and everyone just wants them
made lame or even dead by taking away the very fiber of its existence. That, is not right.
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6 years 5 months ago #167343
by Verrill Lebastion (Wellby)
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Well any of the true Gods don't tend to advise us to "teach people a lesson" then let their lesson get this out of hand.
As far as I can see it, this "piece" of Arawyn seems on par or beneath Chaz when it comes to foresight and wisdom so I can say I'd personally feel more comfortable if this fallibility were acknowledged, so we know that our authorities on the matter are not looking to him when they are making decisions that can hurt the people they are sworn to shepard.
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As far as I can see it, this "piece" of Arawyn seems on par or beneath Chaz when it comes to foresight and wisdom so I can say I'd personally feel more comfortable if this fallibility were acknowledged, so we know that our authorities on the matter are not looking to him when they are making decisions that can hurt the people they are sworn to shepard.
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6 years 5 months ago #167345
by O. Nesterin (kuemanner)
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't disagree that a mistake was made. I don't think this should have been done in the first place. The point I'm arguing is that all creatures, no matter how powerful, make mistakes. That doesn't mean we should resign them to death or stripping them of their power, which in this instance is entwined with the very essence of who they are. The trickster made a huge error, but is working to rectify the situation, along with the one responsible, and many others. The trickster has done a great amount of good to help the creatures of Arawyn and in this instance of curiosity, let it get the better of them.
And, just like clerics and priests to their gods, we druids look to the aspects for advice and guidance but can see when guidance is flawed.
And, just like clerics and priests to their gods, we druids look to the aspects for advice and guidance but can see when guidance is flawed.
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6 years 5 months ago - 6 years 5 months ago #167346
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The Captain had requested I wait a few days before posting the full account of what occurred and the research done immediately afterwards so everyone had a chace to settle but I see that is not what is going to happen. I also see where Sam vanished off to last night.
[strike]Sam[/strike]George covered a good portion, but I can give a full account of being near the ritual, defined better than I can with spoken word. I stammer in large groups so I may easily miss finer details with speech trying to organize my thoughts when I feel short on time.
Also, I am not sure, but I believe it was noted somewhere in here I worship Trickster and act as their word is Valos'? I haven't read all this right now, it was mentioned to me.
I do not worship Trickster, nor would I take their or Valos' word as infallible. Similar to how I do not worship Galladel despite being considered a priest or having a title as one of his champions fighting Necrophitus. No man or higher power is completely immune to the lies of others or themselves and I have always seen that in my long time here. I apologize if it came across that way, I have always concerned myself with the people, which is why I spent the majority of the feast wondering how to express that (I had a lovely conversation with an Inquisitor about it.)
I wrote my account Sunday and have been holding it, but please let me know privately if I should post it to a new thread of paper or not and if I should no longer wait.
For now, everyone, please try and take the morning to breathe and help with repairs or checking in on what we need to do to protect the people from this contract our souls are bound to. We currently have foreign guests and we will be getting more in the coming weeks. We are a team right now, and truly have to work on organizing ourselves overall. I will be back later today after I do my rounds.
Thank you for your time.
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[strike]Sam[/strike]George covered a good portion, but I can give a full account of being near the ritual, defined better than I can with spoken word. I stammer in large groups so I may easily miss finer details with speech trying to organize my thoughts when I feel short on time.
Also, I am not sure, but I believe it was noted somewhere in here I worship Trickster and act as their word is Valos'? I haven't read all this right now, it was mentioned to me.
I do not worship Trickster, nor would I take their or Valos' word as infallible. Similar to how I do not worship Galladel despite being considered a priest or having a title as one of his champions fighting Necrophitus. No man or higher power is completely immune to the lies of others or themselves and I have always seen that in my long time here. I apologize if it came across that way, I have always concerned myself with the people, which is why I spent the majority of the feast wondering how to express that (I had a lovely conversation with an Inquisitor about it.)
I wrote my account Sunday and have been holding it, but please let me know privately if I should post it to a new thread of paper or not and if I should no longer wait.
For now, everyone, please try and take the morning to breathe and help with repairs or checking in on what we need to do to protect the people from this contract our souls are bound to. We currently have foreign guests and we will be getting more in the coming weeks. We are a team right now, and truly have to work on organizing ourselves overall. I will be back later today after I do my rounds.
Thank you for your time.
Ilana Darkwood-Zero
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Headmistress of Darkwood Academy
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Marcella Torres
Land System Deputy
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6 years 5 months ago - 6 years 4 months ago #167348
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Mmmmmhmmmm same tude dat made this god mess same tude bein used to fix it good neybors gett hurt when godbotherin folk say they havin all the ansers an scuses.
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Just two things to mention, as I don't wish to be overly involved in this argument.
Firstly, Order does not mean Good. Just because Trickster is a being of Order that does not make them incapable of being Evil. I'm not saying that they are evil; just that we shouldn't be disregarding what others are saying based on this idea that one cannot be related to both order and evil.
Secondly, I think too many are brushing over the fact that Tom is stating that he and Kin were assaulted by Trickster. Regardless of your feelings towards the other actions Trickster did this feast, Tom deserves to be heard about this.
Firstly, Order does not mean Good. Just because Trickster is a being of Order that does not make them incapable of being Evil. I'm not saying that they are evil; just that we shouldn't be disregarding what others are saying based on this idea that one cannot be related to both order and evil.
Secondly, I think too many are brushing over the fact that Tom is stating that he and Kin were assaulted by Trickster. Regardless of your feelings towards the other actions Trickster did this feast, Tom deserves to be heard about this.
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