Please Stop Feeding the Giant Rats
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6 years 10 months ago #164642
by Verrill Lebastion (Wellby)
Replied by Verrill Lebastion (Wellby) on topic Please Stop Feeding the Giant Rats
WIL SLAY RAT FOR GOLD. POST WIT LAST PLACE YE SEEN EM
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6 years 10 months ago - 6 years 10 months ago #164643
by Zanthios Tartaros (Zanthios)
Replied by Zanthios Tartaros (Zanthios) on topic Please Stop Feeding the Giant Rats
I believe there are absolute truths that aren’t subjective. Perhaps morality is not subjective.
Maybe you should trust your Uncle Zanthios on this one, Cara.
With Kindness
Maybe you should trust your Uncle Zanthios on this one, Cara.
With Kindness
Last edit: 6 years 10 months ago by Zanthios Tartaros (Zanthios).
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6 years 10 months ago #164645
by Aleister (Aleister)
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Replied by Aleister (Aleister) on topic Please Stop Feeding the Giant Rats
I suggest you change your tone very quickly, Zanthios.
If you want to stand by a belief where morality is an absolute truth, none one, including you, in this world are not guilty of disobeying that morality. The design of the Anastazi was that moral code and the mortal existence had turned against it. Light, Dark, Good, Evil; they all are malfunctions of their design, so if you align to any, you are immoral by your claim.
What is ethical, what is moral, what is "right" are all subjective matters based on the circumstances of the situation. To force everyone into the same scope of what is moral is in itself an oppressive and tyrannical mindset -- making it an immoral belief.
When you provide no evidence to your claim, you cannot ask someone to trust your opinion.
And to diminutize Cara like that is very unbecoming. This is not an argument you want to get into with anyone.
That's all I'll say on this matter. These papers speak for themselves.
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If you want to stand by a belief where morality is an absolute truth, none one, including you, in this world are not guilty of disobeying that morality. The design of the Anastazi was that moral code and the mortal existence had turned against it. Light, Dark, Good, Evil; they all are malfunctions of their design, so if you align to any, you are immoral by your claim.
What is ethical, what is moral, what is "right" are all subjective matters based on the circumstances of the situation. To force everyone into the same scope of what is moral is in itself an oppressive and tyrannical mindset -- making it an immoral belief.
When you provide no evidence to your claim, you cannot ask someone to trust your opinion.
And to diminutize Cara like that is very unbecoming. This is not an argument you want to get into with anyone.
That's all I'll say on this matter. These papers speak for themselves.
Warlord Tartaros
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6 years 10 months ago - 6 years 10 months ago #164646
by Zanthios Tartaros (Zanthios)
Replied by Zanthios Tartaros (Zanthios) on topic Please Stop Feeding the Giant Rats
Aleister,
Maybe you should change your tone as
nothing I said was wrong and I meant nothing wrong.
Maybe you’ve met people in the past who believed in the wrong version of what’s right.
For example, the followers of the Blazing Sun maybe believed they’re right but they may have killed hundreds.
I believe Killing, Stealing, and Adultry are absolutely wrong.
Referring to myself as uncle is perhaps a gesture of family, love, and kindness. To assume my tone may have led you to believe that I was being diminutizing.
I wasn’t.
Also, I believe we all have the right to share our opinions and believe what we’d like to.
I assure you, I’m no threat to anyone and could be perceived as a loving and caring indevidual.
I hope we can proceed respectfully & kindly.
Maybe you should change your tone as
nothing I said was wrong and I meant nothing wrong.
Maybe you’ve met people in the past who believed in the wrong version of what’s right.
For example, the followers of the Blazing Sun maybe believed they’re right but they may have killed hundreds.
I believe Killing, Stealing, and Adultry are absolutely wrong.
Referring to myself as uncle is perhaps a gesture of family, love, and kindness. To assume my tone may have led you to believe that I was being diminutizing.
I wasn’t.
Also, I believe we all have the right to share our opinions and believe what we’d like to.
I assure you, I’m no threat to anyone and could be perceived as a loving and caring indevidual.
I hope we can proceed respectfully & kindly.
Last edit: 6 years 10 months ago by Zanthios Tartaros (Zanthios).
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6 years 10 months ago #164647
by Ephrem (bamore62)
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Replied by Ephrem (bamore62) on topic Please Stop Feeding the Giant Rats
Warlord Tartaros,
I earnestly have a question in this regard. Is the statement you are making regarding morals in itself subject to moral subjectivity? If it were so, then it would then seem to be self-refuting.
The existence of the Anastazi present a conundrum in itself that the creators of a moral law would then be subject to a different moral law not of their making. Perhaps there is a higher objective moral law that even the Anastazi were in fact acting against by setting up their "grand experiment." This seems an interesting speculation, but does seem plausible in that the Anastazi were not perfect beings and were capable of error (and defeat, thank the gods - or maybe not the gods - or.... forget that last interjection, as throwing in an idiomatic saying like that might cause problems).
I would welcome more philosophical discussions on this matter. Perhaps the boards are not the place for such discussion and a more personal meeting of the minds would serve the interests of seeking truth and knowledge.
Sincerely,
Father Ephrem,
Primus of the Church of Light in Travance
I earnestly have a question in this regard. Is the statement you are making regarding morals in itself subject to moral subjectivity? If it were so, then it would then seem to be self-refuting.
The existence of the Anastazi present a conundrum in itself that the creators of a moral law would then be subject to a different moral law not of their making. Perhaps there is a higher objective moral law that even the Anastazi were in fact acting against by setting up their "grand experiment." This seems an interesting speculation, but does seem plausible in that the Anastazi were not perfect beings and were capable of error (and defeat, thank the gods - or maybe not the gods - or.... forget that last interjection, as throwing in an idiomatic saying like that might cause problems).
I would welcome more philosophical discussions on this matter. Perhaps the boards are not the place for such discussion and a more personal meeting of the minds would serve the interests of seeking truth and knowledge.
Sincerely,
Father Ephrem,
Primus of the Church of Light in Travance
Father Ephrem
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6 years 10 months ago - 6 years 10 months ago #164648
by Annora (Karen)
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Replied by Annora (Karen) on topic Please Stop Feeding the Giant Rats
I am a predator. A giant reptile, if you will.
Rats, other rodents, and mammals are what my children eat. They are what I eat.
In what way is Arawyn's natural order, the wild ways, "immoral"?
Also, do you eat meat?
I'm quite sure you do.
So stop being a hypocrite.
Just because someone else slaughters and prepares the flesh you consume, doesn't make you any more righteous.
Annora
Rats, other rodents, and mammals are what my children eat. They are what I eat.
In what way is Arawyn's natural order, the wild ways, "immoral"?
Also, do you eat meat?
I'm quite sure you do.
So stop being a hypocrite.
Just because someone else slaughters and prepares the flesh you consume, doesn't make you any more righteous.
Annora
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Last edit: 6 years 10 months ago by Annora (Karen).
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