Rules Update: Master Warrior

14 years 1 month ago #65140 by Draknar DoKanen (Draknar DoKanen)
It does exactly what the wording says - if you couple Perfect Strike with a Deflect (ie, calling "Perfect strike deflect") then it acts as a superior defense.  No, it does not work with other defenses, only the ones listed.

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14 years 1 month ago #65145 by Rannick (Rannick)
Okay, Sean.  Let's get into what "exactly" the wording says: it says that Master Warriors can couple Perfect Strike with "any other skill they wish to couple with it."  This would suggest that a MW could pair Perfect Strike with Gypsy Hex, Spirit of the Dragon, Courage, a Healing Spell, or whatever - especially when the skill description goes on to say how it works with Parry and Deflect.  This contradicts what you just explained: that the only defenses which can be used are Parry and Deflect.

So you see, Sean, while I was able to reason out that your explaination of the skill was the most LIKELY meaning of the wording, this wording is NOT exact, nor does it convey the proper meaning.

Here's something better, with the changes in bold for your convenience: "The Master Warrior states 'Perfect Strike' followed by any other physical attack skill they wish to couple with it and the target must defend or succumb to the attack.  The character must be within her weapon’s reach of the intended target to use this skill.  Perfect Strike may also be coupled with a Parry or Deflect (but no other defense skills), and if used in this way those defenses become Superior.  You may not Follow Through on a Perfect Strike."

This is assuming that Perfect Strike is only meant to be coupled with physical attacks.  I'm only guessing that it is - the wording is not very exact on that, either.

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14 years 1 month ago #65147 by Chris G. (Cross)
Whoa...

Not trying to complicate things here, more trying to simplify them but... the entire quote of the skill would clear this all up.

This ability allows the Master Warrior to strike their opponent with perfect accuracy. The Master Warrior states "Perfect Strike" followed by any other skill they wish to couple with it and the target must defend or succumb to the attack.  The character must be within her weapon’s reach of the intended target to use this skill.  If coupled with a Parry or Deflect those defenses become Superior.  You may not Follow Through on a Perfect Strike.


The wording cannot suggest using Perfect Strike with a Buff.
The wording says "...and the target must defend or succumb to the attack." that last part denotes that an attack must be used with this ability.
The last section involving Parry or Deflect is also clear as to the only exception to the previous line of "...and the target must defend or succumb to the attack."  The reason the text (but no other defense skills) is not listed is because we have a long standing rule that is often quoted and understood that if the skill does not say you can, then you cannot.

I can understand a little confusion but I don't think that any sort of heated motions are required here, remember it's just a game and that emotions and context don't translate well over the internet.

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14 years 1 month ago #65148 by Draknar DoKanen (Draknar DoKanen)
I've bolded the exact parts of the skill that make it unable to do any of the things you're suggesting:

Perfect Strike
Attack, Melee, Piercing
Tier: 4
Build: 5
Maximum: 3
Pre-Req.:  1 Tier 3 Finesse ability
Usage: Periodic
This ability allows the Master Warrior to strike their opponent with perfect accuracy. The Master Warrior states "Perfect Strike" followed by any other skill they wish to couple with it and the target must defend or succumb to the attack.  The character must be within her weapon’s reach of the intended target to use this skill.  If coupled with a Parry or Deflect those defenses become Superior.  You may not Follow Through on a Perfect Strike.


Hope that helps clear things up.

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14 years 1 month ago #65149 by Magnus (hippy g0th)
So with spell grounding gone, master warriors can only stop a spell if they have Immaculate Defense... kinda makes us alot weaker dont ya think, since any mage can just incinerate us or harvest your soul us into the ground...

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14 years 1 month ago #65150 by Draknar DoKanen (Draknar DoKanen)

So with spell grounding gone, master warriors can only stop a spell if they have Immaculate Defense... kinda makes us alot weaker dont ya think, since any mage can just incinerate us or harvest your soul us into the ground...


Or Defiant Cover.  But you're right, there's no denying that master warriors are now far more susceptible to magic.  The overall power level of the entire game is being brought down with the changes to these lists, master warrior was just the first one to be finished.  Trust me, the caster higher list is also being brought into line, and it should also be ready shortly.  Once everything is balanced out, the disparity won't be so large.

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