Rules Update: Master Warrior
- Toravisu

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14 years 1 month ago #65165
by Toravisu (Toravisu)
Toravisu Inuzuka
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Replied by Toravisu (Toravisu) on topic Rules Update: Master Warrior
Thanks James! Also are all higher list defenses going to be considered superior for now until everything is balanced out properly? For example mantis style was parry/throw is it now that but also superior?
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- Hadrian Thane

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14 years 1 month ago #65166
by Hadrian Thane (GBino)
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Replied by Hadrian Thane (GBino) on topic Re: Rules Update: Master Warrior
Everything will be individually evaluated for balance, but that is the general plan, yes.
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- Bladesworn

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14 years 1 month ago #65168
by Bladesworn (Bladesworn)
IG: Tyran Radley
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Replied by Bladesworn (Bladesworn) on topic Rules Update: Master Warrior
The thing I am wondering about is no "new" NPC teachers will come out if there is a player who can teach the skill. Higher lists are NOT guaranteed. If you pissed off your IG teacher, then you are out of luck. If you have a player who IG RP'd a relationship with a specific teacher to learn the higher list recently... these changes alter that.
Example: Scott the Swashbuckler is a Master Warrior teacher. His student is Clara the Chaos Warrior (she "convinced" him to be her teacher due to a drinking contest). So he begins teaching her, as per the rules, they are waiting/rp-ing through the first stage. With these changes, Scott chooses to go with the Finesse Path. So he get all the Tiers for Finesse, & chooses Defense for the 2ndary, & Power for the 3rd.
Clara is a 2hder person, so she chooses Power as her prime choice. Scott can help her learn 1 (or maybe 2) of the 1st Tier Power skills, but that's it. Now she has to learn the other Tier Power skills from someone else. Thing is, she doesn't know who can teach her & her character (a wild Chaos Warrior who drinks). For her to go & try to learn from Chester the Cavalier (who is a Lawful Good, non-drinker, serious type) who knows the Power Path is kinda weird.
Example: Scott the Swashbuckler is a Master Warrior teacher. His student is Clara the Chaos Warrior (she "convinced" him to be her teacher due to a drinking contest). So he begins teaching her, as per the rules, they are waiting/rp-ing through the first stage. With these changes, Scott chooses to go with the Finesse Path. So he get all the Tiers for Finesse, & chooses Defense for the 2ndary, & Power for the 3rd.
Clara is a 2hder person, so she chooses Power as her prime choice. Scott can help her learn 1 (or maybe 2) of the 1st Tier Power skills, but that's it. Now she has to learn the other Tier Power skills from someone else. Thing is, she doesn't know who can teach her & her character (a wild Chaos Warrior who drinks). For her to go & try to learn from Chester the Cavalier (who is a Lawful Good, non-drinker, serious type) who knows the Power Path is kinda weird.
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14 years 1 month ago #65169
by Tsoli (Tsoli)
Replied by Tsoli (Tsoli) on topic Rules Update: Master Warrior
1.You said all lower list, save promos, will be non superior. Does this apply to things like Stoneskin, displacement, retribution etc that still have it listed as superior.
1a. Stoneskin is on both Valence and Earth, will there be a name change?
2 What about magical and divine sanctuaries, they are lower list skills that stop "everything" will they still stop higher list skills or did they just get significantly weaker?
1a. Stoneskin is on both Valence and Earth, will there be a name change?
2 What about magical and divine sanctuaries, they are lower list skills that stop "everything" will they still stop higher list skills or did they just get significantly weaker?
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14 years 1 month ago #65170
by Aleister (Aleister)
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Replied by Aleister (Aleister) on topic Rules Update: Master Warrior
1. Yes. The Rulebook has not been updated yet to this change. Give it time! These changes come out the day after the rulebook went up. What is currently posted here is the most accurate of information.
1a. The Earth spell name will remain the same. No, the new names are not posted yet.
2. Barriers do not stop effects, more that they do not allow a person close enough to use an ability. Barriers still work the same.
1a. The Earth spell name will remain the same. No, the new names are not posted yet.
2. Barriers do not stop effects, more that they do not allow a person close enough to use an ability. Barriers still work the same.
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14 years 1 month ago #65243
by dagnarusfirehilt (dagnarusfirehilt)
Replied by dagnarusfirehilt (dagnarusfirehilt) on topic Rules Update: Master Warrior
Everyone is asking such good questions to help iron it out that I feel like I'm nitpicking and complaining but that's not the case, just confused. Under the path of power, to get slay you need one tier 3 skill. However, there is only one tier 3 skill available and that is Devastating Strike. While this is an awesome skill in concept it is ineffective without the right type of weapon. That leaves someone like myself, carrying two 1HE or someone fighting with shield with a skill they can't use or at least can't easily utilize just to cover a pre-req.
So I guess my question is, will there be an alternative tier 3, or another way to satisfy the pre-req.
Also, will we be able to re-spend the build or will the build be refunded and we will have to learn everything IG. (This may have been covered but I just soaked up so much new information I don't remember.)
Thanks.
Dave Ludewig
IG - Dagnarus Artex Firehilt
So I guess my question is, will there be an alternative tier 3, or another way to satisfy the pre-req.
Also, will we be able to re-spend the build or will the build be refunded and we will have to learn everything IG. (This may have been covered but I just soaked up so much new information I don't remember.)
Thanks.
Dave Ludewig
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