Body Ratio Adjustment

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11 years 11 months ago #96130 by Jack (Keeperofdice)
Also: with lower body/armor/damage LOOK how more useful spells like drain life and earth armor are going to be again!!!

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11 years 11 months ago - 11 years 11 months ago #96131 by Goggs (coryan)
If we think Crafting Points should affect BP ratios: how would we go about doing so?

Here is a list of the professions that have access to Crafting Points:

Alchemist
Assassin
Druid
Healer
Physician
Scholar
Smith

... It's fairly diverse. Are they a combat skill (as per Smith,) a rogue skill (as per Assassin,) a caster skill (as per Druid,) or something else (Scholar, for example?)

With that in mind, it might perhaps make a bit more sense as to why they aren't being factored in.

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11 years 11 months ago - 11 years 11 months ago #96132 by Gallion (Gallion)
Three things worth mentioning, although I will not be debating or responding to responses... I just don't have time, too busy trying to improve every other aspect of the game and the camp...

1) The addition of casting points... literally no big deal. We did the math. Gideon who had 190 magic points, lost 2 body points as a result. Don't be so afraid, its not going to drastically effect the BP total of a generally balanced multi-classed character.

2) The system is simple if you don't concern yourself with min-maxing numbers.
- Your ratio is Uniquely tailored to your character
- If you buy combat-type skills, your ratio ticks slightly upward, towards three
- If you buy Spellcaster-type skills your ratio ticks slightly downward, towards one
- The Card System does all the work for you, and tells you what your ratio is.
- If you are NOT interested in totally min-maxing your body-points to a finite degree, then you don't need to concern yourself past that.
- If you ARE interested in min-maxing your body points to a finite degree, just buy as much combat skills as possible and don't spend too much on spell casting skills...
- If your character has half her build spent in combat abilities... and half her build spent in spell abilities... her ratio will be about two.
Its really not complicated, if you just understand the above bullet points.

3) We have spent the last year pouring over all of these changes and how they will effect every aspect of the game. We believe that things will fall into place shortly and the game balance will improve dramatically as a result. If we find out we were wrong about something we will not hesitate to fix it.. however I think things will be more than fine.

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11 years 11 months ago #96133 by GJSchaller (GJSchaller)
Cory, as a note for your suggestion - there will be no fractional body points, everything is rounded to come out even. No one even needs to do any math - it's all calculated for you, and printed on your card. You only need to do complicated math if you wish to calculate the exact amount of build you need to invest to increase your ratio to a specific number. (I actually made a Google Docs spreadsheet for this, once I make it look pretty, I will link it in the future.)

The main reason for the change, overall, is that anything simpler would be easy to "game" to maximize body. Prior to this, it was "Open a Fighter class, spend build." Now, it accurately reflects how you choose to focus your skills - as an example, Gideon is just about 50/50 when it comes to 3 BR skills, and 1 BR skills. And his Body Ratio is... a 2, right where it should be. I can't just go and buy build at 3:1, nor can I carefully select which skills I buy to keep a favored ratio that works to my advantage (i.e. - Since I have a few build more in 3 BR skills, I can't keep a 3.0 BR. My actual ratio reflects that half my build is in caster lists).

As for the choice on Crafting Points vs. the rest, I will defer to Mike Smith and James on their insight for that one.


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11 years 11 months ago #96144 by PIT DAWWWWWWG (Aldous)
Will decimal point BP-ratios still give you the extra BP when they add up to whole numbers?

For instance, will someone with a 3.5 BP ratio get 7 BP for putting in 2 build? Or just 6, because the system rounds it to 3 each time?

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11 years 11 months ago #96145 by JTinney (Swordsaint)

PIT DAWWWWWWG wrote: Will decimal point BP-ratios still give you the extra BP when they add up to whole numbers?

For instance, will someone with a 3.5 BP ratio get 7 BP for putting in 2 build? Or just 6, because the system rounds it to 3 each time?


IIRC... it rounds up, not down.

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